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Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: House Passes Bill Allowing Mentally Ill Veterans To Own Guns [View all]gejohnston
(17,502 posts)21. That's how it currently works with the Gun Control Act
There would be less gun violence if we had slightly more restrictions. It's been proven. At this point, it's a debate between our rights to bear arms and safety. Putting some more restrictions on buying arms doesn't make the US a country void of rights. It means that there's more restrictions of buying firearms.
No, it hasn't been proven. In fact, the largest plurality of criminology studies shows that it has no effect (the next largest is the "more guns, less crime" . Some ER doctor publishing a flawed study in a medical journal, where it isn't peer reviewed by experts in the subject, or simply not peer reviewed at all. At best, these studies are examples of post hoc ergo propter hoc. The last restrictions did nothing, slightly more will do nothing. If it were that simple, Brazil, Mexico, and Venezuela would be less violent. Two have stricter gun laws than the UK, the other completely bans private ownership.
"studies" by any advocacy groups should be closely scrutinized if not dismissed out of hand.
Worldwide, there is no correlation between gun ownership, or gun laws, and crime. There is with the GINI Coefficient, a very strong one at that.
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I support RKBA but background checks and restrictions for the mentally ill just make sense.
Blue_Warrior
Mar 2017
#3
'mentally ill' is a moveable feast, and people within that category are more likely to be victims of
AtheistCrusader
Mar 2017
#12
Who are these "gun nuts" you speak of? And what is your definition of "mentally ill"?
friendly_iconoclast
Apr 2017
#14
Like the Trump White House, gun control advocacy relies upon 'faith-promoting rumor'
friendly_iconoclast
Mar 2017
#8