Gun Control & RKBA

Straw Man

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24. Around and around.

Reply to Carter Johnson girl (Reply #20)

Sun Apr 9, 2017, 09:00 PM

Apr 2017

OK, so the healthcare professionals could testify. I still see no reason why a severely mentally ill person should be allowed to buy a firearm.

OK, but the ultimate decision rests with the judge. And please remember that the OP was not about "severely mentally ill" people. It was about veterans who need help managing their finances, and have then been unilaterally declared "mentally incompetent" by the VA.

I said restricting gun rights is a small issue compared to the amount of people dead from gun violence.

Actually, no you didn't. You said that restricting rights was a small issue.

I do not agree with stop-and-frisk.

Now you want to get picky-choosy about which rights you're going to restrict. Then you're going to have to provide some data to show that gun-control laws are more effective than other restrictions on rights, such as stop-and-frisk. Can you show that?

Gun rights aren't the same as typical human and American rights. It's a right to a weapon. That is completely different than normal American rights.

What are "normal American rights" if not something that is guaranteed by the Constitution? How much more "normal American" can you get?

There would be less gun violence if we had slightly more restrictions. It's been proven.

Umm... no, it hasn't. There are many restrictions now on the books that have done little or nothing to reduce gun violence. The AWB that was Federal law for 10 years and is now state law in CA, NY, CT, etc. is a case in point.

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House Passes Bill Allowing Mentally Ill Veterans To Own Guns [View all] HAB911 Mar 2017 OP

Is the assumption mental illness can not be cured? Throck Mar 2017 #1

Are mentally ill people with motor vechicles safer? Throck Mar 2017 #2

Of course not. yagotme Mar 2017 #4

I support RKBA but background checks and restrictions for the mentally ill just make sense. Blue_Warrior Mar 2017 #3

See my #4 post. nt yagotme Mar 2017 #5

'mentally ill' is a moveable feast, and people within that category are more likely to be victims of AtheistCrusader Mar 2017 #12

Why don't the gun nuts understand this? Carter Johnson girl Apr 2017 #13

Who are these "gun nuts" you speak of? And what is your definition of "mentally ill"? friendly_iconoclast Apr 2017 #14

... Carter Johnson girl Apr 2017 #15

Let's take a look at this. Straw Man Apr 2017 #16

Sure. Carter Johnson girl Apr 2017 #18

It's simple. Straw Man Apr 2017 #19

. Carter Johnson girl Apr 2017 #20

That's how it currently works with the Gun Control Act gejohnston Apr 2017 #21

/ Carter Johnson girl Apr 2017 #22

Remember what I said about about advocacy groups gejohnston Apr 2017 #23

, Carter Johnson girl Apr 2017 #25

Just out of curiosity sarisataka Apr 2017 #29

just a few things gejohnston Apr 2017 #33

Around and around. Straw Man Apr 2017 #24

/ Carter Johnson girl Apr 2017 #28

I guess you don't like titles. Straw Man Apr 2017 #30

Mentally incompetent does not equal mentally ill. pablo_marmol Apr 2017 #17

Very misleading title and article. ManiacJoe Mar 2017 #6

As long as the person making the determination... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2017 #7

Exactly. ManiacJoe Mar 2017 #9

Like the Trump White House, gun control advocacy relies upon 'faith-promoting rumor' friendly_iconoclast Mar 2017 #8

Headline is a lie. Straw Man Mar 2017 #10

Exactly kudzu22 Mar 2017 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author Snackshack Apr 2017 #26

So the next bill is they will sell guns to suicidal people kimbutgar Apr 2017 #27

Exactly how wild was the "wild west"? discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #32

Anyone take the time to read the actual Bill? Alea Apr 2017 #31

Welcome to DU. yagotme Apr 2017 #34

Thanks for the welcome yagotme :) Alea Apr 2017 #35

You're welcome for the welcome. yagotme Apr 2017 #36