Gun Control & RKBA

Straw Man

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23. Cars and guns.

Fri Aug 4, 2017, 01:01 PM

Aug 2017

I live in Virginia where owning a car and driving it is much more tightly regulated. Gun owners are not required to pass a test, undergo annual inspections, or buy insurance.

Neither are car owners. Anyone can buy a car. Operating one on the road is a different story. What are the restrictions in Virginia on carrying a firearm in public?

Car owners aren't required to undergo a criminal background check to purchase a car. They can sell their cars to residents of any state without the mediation of a federally licensed dealer. They can legally drive their car to any state or to another country. Guns? Not so much.

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Unreal, Canadian being fully prosecuted, for using a home invader's gun against him... [View all] virginia mountainman Aug 2017 OP

As the suspects fled. RandySF Aug 2017 #1

From your own excert they were running away. flamin lib Aug 2017 #2

Artical is not clear on the details... virginia mountainman Aug 2017 #3

Why would you have to shoot at someone running away? Eko Aug 2017 #4

Me? out on the street? I wont.. Unless you're pointing a gun at me as you run... virginia mountainman Aug 2017 #5

Whatever, Eko Aug 2017 #6

Revenge code don't apply to me. virginia mountainman Aug 2017 #9

And I wold never, ever, ever Eko Aug 2017 #7

Who said I would shoot at an "unknown target"? virginia mountainman Aug 2017 #8

Dunno if you noticed, but this Monroe guy isn't even named AS THE HOMEOWNER ... mr_lebowski Aug 2017 #14

It says " sarisataka Aug 2017 #11

Not only does it not say Monroe is the homeowner ... it doesn't even say he's not one of the 3 mr_lebowski Aug 2017 #15

The article doesn't say sarisataka Aug 2017 #10

"Shots were fired as the suspects fled." Straw Man Aug 2017 #12

I must say I find the 'gist' here rather hard to believe ... mr_lebowski Aug 2017 #13

Judging by the discussion on this, the NRA will have a field day using this as "proof" of what will Nitram Aug 2017 #16

I suppose you could oppose any restriction sarisataka Aug 2017 #17

I don't. Nitram Aug 2017 #21

IMHO, you, me or anyone... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2017 #18

guns already are regulated in the US, gejohnston Aug 2017 #19

"the most tightly regulated consumer product in the US." That is patently false. Nitram Aug 2017 #22

Cars and guns. Straw Man Aug 2017 #23

There are no restrictions on openly carrying a firearm in public in Virginia. Nitram Aug 2017 #24

yes but owning a gun is a right, driving is not gejohnston Aug 2017 #26

In a "well regulated militia." Nitram Aug 2017 #55

And who is the militia? discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2017 #58

"When properly formed..." Nitram Aug 2017 #60

yes and no, gejohnston Aug 2017 #61

No, the National Guards were what became of the militias, which were originally conceived to protect Nitram Aug 2017 #63

I said that gejohnston Aug 2017 #66

No, you did not say that. You said, "The National Guard and Reserves are simply reserve forces..." Nitram Aug 2017 #67

They are, gejohnston Aug 2017 #68

It does not say THE PEOPLE have a right. It says, "A well regulated Militia, being necessary Nitram Aug 2017 #69

The New Yorker is wrong, gejohnston Aug 2017 #70

Like the guy who has 5 cars that he never drives off his property so he doesn't have to Nitram Aug 2017 #72

Your point? gejohnston Aug 2017 #73

Interpreting of laws relies on certain principles discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2017 #71

that isn't a restriction, gejohnston Aug 2017 #59

It isn't a restriction, it is a right. Every property-owning white man (as the Constitution Nitram Aug 2017 #62

wrong on the history. gejohnston Aug 2017 #64

You have a point, gejonston. Nitram Aug 2017 #65

But there are restrictions on concealed carry. Straw Man Aug 2017 #47

Then why do you need to pay for insurance for every vehicle you own? Nitram Aug 2017 #54

You don't. oneshooter Aug 2017 #56

If you have to use that silly argument that you don't have to pay insurance except on vehicles Nitram Aug 2017 #57

Let me type this slower. oneshooter Aug 2017 #74

That was so slow I fell asleep halfway through. Nitram Aug 2017 #76

Because comprehensive insurance also covers damage to the vehicle. Straw Man Aug 2017 #75

no it isn't. gejohnston Aug 2017 #25

Oh come on marylandblue Aug 2017 #27

many people buy a gun without ever intending to carry in public discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2017 #28

It is in fact assumed you'll drive it public, so laws are all about driving marylandblue Aug 2017 #31

You asserted that it is assumed that most all car buyers will drive in public. discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2017 #33

Whatever you buy, it is assumed you will use it for it's intended purpose marylandblue Aug 2017 #36

huh? gejohnston Aug 2017 #37

Huh right back marylandblue Aug 2017 #39

the CDC website under accidents gejohnston Aug 2017 #40

Yes I saw the statistics. marylandblue Aug 2017 #42

that is why I said near zero gejohnston Aug 2017 #43

Near Zero isn't zero marylandblue Aug 2017 #44

Maybe you could cut to the chase here and list what you want as law discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2017 #48

I don't like the term "control" either marylandblue Aug 2017 #49

honest question, gejohnston Aug 2017 #50

There would only need to be one check marylandblue Aug 2017 #52

NICS is a federal program gejohnston Aug 2017 #53

Please see my embedded comments below discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2017 #51

collectors and people who live on farms. gejohnston Aug 2017 #29

Okay, lets do it like they do in Norway marylandblue Aug 2017 #34

Actually, no gejohnston Aug 2017 #35

You raised a lot of issues at once: Some questions and responses about that marylandblue Aug 2017 #38

I read and study the issue more gejohnston Aug 2017 #41

You brought up Brazil and Mexico, so fine they aren't relevant marylandblue Aug 2017 #45

Brazil and Mexico is relevant because of their GINI coefficents gejohnston Aug 2017 #46

Stories like this is why we must remain progressive on the 2A here in the USA. ileus Aug 2017 #20

Define "progressive on the 2a" please... eom Purveyor Aug 2017 #30

pardon the intrusion discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2017 #32