Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: I wonder how many of the angry posters who are filling GD with strident defenses of civil rights [View all]krispos42
(49,445 posts)They seem to have problems with the following:
*Assault weapons (by 1993 Federal AWB or stricter)
*Owning magazines of >10 rounds capacity
*Carrying guns for self-defense
*Owning more than a couple of guns at a time
*Training for self-defense
*The AR-15
*People talking about guns in an enthusiastic manner
*People owning guns without shame
*Anybody that argues with the definition of "reasonable gun-control laws"
*"Gun culture"
*Open or concealed carry by anybody except cops and security guards.
They seem to think that a person can own one or two, perhaps as many as 3, registered manual-action long guns that can hold as many as 5 rounds, as long as they are expressly designed for sporting purposes and expressly lacking features for tactical purposes.
Period.
That seems to be where the 2nd Amendment ends for them, and anything else is a privilege extended by the state and subject to revocation.
It was only a few years ago (late spring of 2013) that, after the Sandy Hook school massacre, gun-control in the form of a new, stricter AWB, universal background checks, and magazine-size limits, was going to be the "purity test" for Democrats. Especially after the failure of these items in Congress despite pushing from Obama and some of the parents of the Sandy Hook victims. Get some TRUE Democrats in office, etc.
I'm listening to Sam Sedar shows from this era, and yeah, the guests of his that are talking about it (particularly Cliff Schecter) go OFF THE RAILS when talking about gun owners and groups like the NRA. The word "terrorist" gets thrown around an awful lot, among other insults. And they come down hard on Democrats that don't toe the line on this issue.
I'd much rather Democrats stand firm on abortion rights and dropped some of the gun-control stuff. We have President fucking....
Dammit. I can't even type that.
We have the Fanta Menace in the White House now (and the comparative genius of Bush43 before him) because of this "culture war" bullshit that Democrats picked up in the very early 90's. Which backfired spectacularly, by the way. The number of AR-15s and other magazine-fed semi-automatic rifles in this country SOARED under Clinton, Bush, and Obama.
A handful of voters in a couple of states... and *boom*. The Fanta Menace.
And if ObamaCare gets repealed, the number of people dead from lack of health care and/or health insurance will DWARF the number of people killed with "assault weapons", and people open-carrying, and people concealed-carrying COMBINED.
And this is BEFORE Orange Idiot starts a shooting war in Korea.