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In reply to the discussion: Children Are Dying Because Of Americans' Denial About Guns [View all]friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)84. "...equating Pol Pot with the kids that died at Sandy Hook?" No, pointing out blatant demagoguery
As is painfully obvious, it's not confined to the right-wing:
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/demagoguery
demagoguery
[dem-uh-gog-uh-ree, -gaw-guh-]
noun
1.
the methods or practices of a demagogue.
[dem-uh-gog-uh-ree, -gaw-guh-]
noun
1.
the methods or practices of a demagogue.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demagogue
Demagogue
A demagogue /ˈdɛməɡɒɡ/ (from Greek δημαγωγός, a popular leader, a leader of a mob, from δῆμος, people, populace, the commons + ἀγωγός leading, leader)[1] or rabble-rouser is a leader in a democracy who gains popularity by exploiting prejudice and ignorance among the common people, whipping up the passions of the crowd and shutting down reasoned deliberation.[1][2][3][4] Demagogues overturn established customs of political conduct, or promise or threaten to do so.
Demagogues have appeared in democracies since ancient Athens. They exploit a fundamental weakness in democracy: because ultimate power is held by the people, it is possible for the people to give that power to someone who appeals to the lowest common denominator of a large segment of the population.[5] Demagogues have usually advocated immediate, forceful action to address a national crisis while accusing moderate and thoughtful opponents of weakness or disloyalty...
...Methods
4.1 Scapegoating
4.2 Fearmongering
4.3 Lying
4.4 Emotional oratory and personal charisma
4.5 Accusing opponents of weakness and disloyalty
4.6 Promising the impossible
4.7 Violence and physical intimidation
4.8 Personal insults and ridicule
4.9 Vulgarity and outrageous behavior
4.10 Folksy posturing
4.11 Gross oversimplification
4.12 Attacking the news media
A demagogue /ˈdɛməɡɒɡ/ (from Greek δημαγωγός, a popular leader, a leader of a mob, from δῆμος, people, populace, the commons + ἀγωγός leading, leader)[1] or rabble-rouser is a leader in a democracy who gains popularity by exploiting prejudice and ignorance among the common people, whipping up the passions of the crowd and shutting down reasoned deliberation.[1][2][3][4] Demagogues overturn established customs of political conduct, or promise or threaten to do so.
Demagogues have appeared in democracies since ancient Athens. They exploit a fundamental weakness in democracy: because ultimate power is held by the people, it is possible for the people to give that power to someone who appeals to the lowest common denominator of a large segment of the population.[5] Demagogues have usually advocated immediate, forceful action to address a national crisis while accusing moderate and thoughtful opponents of weakness or disloyalty...
...Methods
4.1 Scapegoating
4.2 Fearmongering
4.3 Lying
4.4 Emotional oratory and personal charisma
4.5 Accusing opponents of weakness and disloyalty
4.6 Promising the impossible
4.7 Violence and physical intimidation
4.8 Personal insults and ridicule
4.9 Vulgarity and outrageous behavior
4.10 Folksy posturing
4.11 Gross oversimplification
4.12 Attacking the news media
So far, I've seen methods 1 through 6, and 8, 10, and 11 employed.
The only thing Wikipedia missed was "claiming to be on the right side of history", and...
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1172205554#post48
Support gun control or history will judge your like George Wallace: on the wrong side. Your kids and grandkids will judge you harshly.
...about covers that, I would say
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What about my M1884 rifle? That is a single shot military long arm designed to kill humans as well.
Marengo
Feb 2018
#29
Australia and Canada put the lie to NRA stats. Fewer guns, fewer deaths. See the chart.
sharedvalues
Feb 2018
#42
re:"Let's be clear: if you support more guns in the US, you're complicit in American kids' deaths."
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Feb 2018
#45
Bullshit: The FBI's crime statistics are available online to all: https://ucr.fbi.gov/
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2018
#67
As friendly_iconoclast has pointed out the data is readily available on the internet...
spin
Feb 2018
#69
Please read. How many times do I have to show you all the quote? Please read.
sharedvalues
Feb 2018
#71
You're backpedaling-your claim changed when the FBI's freely available stats were pointed out.
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2018
#73
IOW, guns embolden deaths. Thank you for Loudly giving your opinion
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2018
#49
"...equating Pol Pot with the kids that died at Sandy Hook?" No, pointing out blatant demagoguery
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2018
#84
I agree. We need to ban handguns, and gun-fetishists have been Gish galloping.
sharedvalues
Feb 2018
#77
I don't doubt that you believe every word you write when you write it n/t
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2018
#82
"Getting an AR-15-style rifle is much harder in Canada than the U.S." - Largest TV network in Canada
sharedvalues
Feb 2018
#76
It seems spreading bullshit for too long causes one to start to believe what they're handing out...
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2018
#81
It's cute that your standard seems to be: "Someone else said so too, so that *proves* I'm right!"
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2018
#80
Not your version of gun control....I MOST certainly do know about American
AncientGeezer
Feb 2018
#20
The children of Latarsha Sanders were torn apart with a kitchen knife wielded by her. The oldest...
Marengo
Feb 2018
#30
Latarsha Sanders didnt kill her children with a gun. So, lets hear some of you ideas on how...
Marengo
Feb 2018
#57
Stopping parents from murdering their kids because of religious delusions and...
moriah
Feb 2018
#60
Latarsha Sanders shouldnt have had access to a lethal weapons. Background checks for the...
Marengo
Feb 2018
#64