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krispos42

(49,445 posts)
1. Because treating it as a hardware issue isn't good gun laws
Fri Mar 26, 2021, 04:28 PM
Mar 2021

It may be emotionally satisfying, but it's ultimately unproductive.

It's not a hardware problem. At least in the sense you can draw some arbitray line between types of guns and say "problem"/"not a problem".

Actually, blaming "assault weapons" is a useful tool because the politicians and pundents can pretend there is a solution to a pretty much solutionless problem.

Homicidal beserker decides to kill a bunch of people in a random building in a random city in a random state. He (and they are all "he" ) does it at a random time on a random day of a random month, and he does it for a reason that ONLY MAKES SENSE TO HIM. And even a quick police response time gives a minimum of 180 long, long seconds to the beserker to kill and kill and kill

There is no organization to dismantle. Theere are no members to arrest, no leaders interrogate, no finances to freeze, no supporters flip, no headquarters to seize.

It's called "stochatic terrorism", and it's what the purveyers of chaos and hate stoke deep in the world of the anonymous internet. Incels and MAGAts and Qanon and white nationists and Christian nationists and others insulate themselves from reality and delve deep into their own little bubble of reality.

Rerun the Boulder attack, but give the guy pretty much any "lesser" gun, and you'd still have 10 dead innocents. 180 seconds is a long, long time to run through a store shooting anybody that you want.

I mean, I guess you could decide to completely disarm the entire civilian population but that presents its own problems.

So, banning assault weapons and magazine-capacity limits. "This way, they can't kill as many people at the next mass shooting!" is the reasoning, which implicity says the problem of mass shootings is here to stay but they're going to limit the damage and that's a workable solution.

The background check bill that the Democrats passed in the House a few weeks ago... that might actually cut down on both mass shootings and normal, run-of-the-mill shootings.

The assault weapons ban? Not a chance.

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Why we don't get good gun laws. [View all] 3Hotdogs Mar 2021 OP
Because treating it as a hardware issue isn't good gun laws krispos42 Mar 2021 #1
Let us know, the next time some nut uses a Winchester Model 70 in a mass shooting. Paladin Apr 2021 #8
Yet the homicide rate dropped by 40% during the same time period. krispos42 Apr 2021 #9
I get it. Rallying folks against an enemy is about the best way to unite them. discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2021 #16
Thank you for speaking truth to---whatever. nt Atticus Apr 2021 #13
Disarm the entire population ... it is a three year process. 3Hotdogs Mar 2021 #2
I like it! Mary in S. Carolina Mar 2021 #3
So you're thinking that we have nothing better to do... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2021 #4
This sarisataka Mar 2021 #5
Sounds easy. Straw Man Mar 2021 #6
Sounds like a recipe for kick-starting an (Un-)Civil War. RotorHead May 2021 #17
That's the point. Nobody is coming for your guns. 3Hotdogs May 2021 #19
Soooo... RotorHead May 2021 #20
Its a difference between going door to door, looking for and finding same during course of resolving 3Hotdogs May 2021 #22
Sooo... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2021 #23
Sooo, the gov't is going to throw out all those registration lists/ yagotme May 2021 #32
It's Insanity colsohlibgal Apr 2021 #7
Military grade weapons... yagotme Apr 2021 #10
Are there more than 4 shootings in the last 80 years, that were committed with a machine gun? discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2021 #11
Legally owned? Probably, maybe less. yagotme Apr 2021 #12
Some are "getting tired" of disingenuous red herrings being posted as a "response". nt Atticus Apr 2021 #14
Some "get tired" of misinformation being presented as a response. yagotme Apr 2021 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author RotorHead May 2021 #18
"Military grade weapons"? RotorHead May 2021 #21
You're not supposed to use arguments that demonstrate knowledge of the subject at hand. Dial H For Hero May 2021 #24
How dare I be educated on a topic, right? RotorHead May 2021 #26
We don't get good gun laws because our country has too many man-babies who need to Scrivener7 May 2021 #25
If you're confusing guns with male genitalia.... RotorHead May 2021 #27
Back atcha, buddy. Scrivener7 May 2021 #28
I'm sure you can demonstrate where I have made such an error...... RotorHead May 2021 #31
When one doesn't have a good argument one can always use ad hominems, yes? Dial H For Hero May 2021 #29
Ooooh, so original. MarineCombatEngineer May 2021 #30
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