Gun Control & RKBA

Dial H For Hero

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27. If I might jump in....

Tue Jul 20, 2021, 01:46 AM

Jul 2021

About DUI; do you know anyone who might occasionally drive 'buzzed'? If so have you commented that it's not a good idea? That is what MADD did. It changed the culture of drink and drive by making people aware. Woke is the new phraseology.

I know no one who does so at present, although one of my friends was convicted of DUI a couple of times, well over 20 years ago. At the time, we said any number of variations of "So. You're an idiot." to him.

You are part of the gun culture. Others in that culture will respect what you say as a peer and a comrade. I'm a 'gun grabber' so none of the gun crowd will even hear what I say much less give it any credence. I'm asking those inside the culture to work at changing that culture to a more safety conscientious attitude.

Here's the trick: I'm a 'gunner', so (almost) no one at DU will even hear what I say (on this issue), much less give it any credence. As evidence of this, I would simply point to the occasional thread in which you and I have interacted. I strive to be calm, polite, and respectful to those with whom I disagree. You self admittedly don't. Nor, for that matter, do most posters in GD when discussing firearms. Given that, what's the point of discussing gun safety with them?

Proud of your newest gun? Great! When you talk about it do you show off the safe you store it in? Make gun safety a bigger part of gun culture than it is now, speak out with your authority as peer, marksman and responsible gun owner. You don't have to lecture, just identify with the safe handling part of gun ownership.

I participate in a number of gun forums, and while I don't wax poetic on the subject of my gun safes (the contents are a lot more interesting), the subject of gun safety does come up on a regular basis, usually in the form of a story in which gun safety rules are broken, leading to everyone saying variations of "So. He's an idiot.".

Want more of this sort of thing on DU from the pro-gun rights contigent? I would humbly suggest that less heavy handed rhetoric directed towards those who simply disagree with you on the legislative aspects of this issue would be a good start.

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'SUPER FUN': A gun covered in Legos to look like a toy sets off a furor [View all] mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2021 OP

Now they are saying it outloud, an unfired gun is just no fun! sanatanadharma Jul 2021 #1

If one is participating in recreational shooting, that does neccesitate shooting firearms, yes? Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #4

A child would certainly want to play with it. keithbvadu2 Jul 2021 #2

Horrible idea DashOneBravo Jul 2021 #3

Poor reporting sarisataka Jul 2021 #5

Thank you for the update. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2021 #6

No, extraordinarily poor judgment by a gun manufacturer. Paladin Jul 2021 #7

I blame the reporter sarisataka Jul 2021 #8

You're making my day. Many thanks. (nt) Paladin Jul 2021 #9

As I discovered when discussing this story in GD, simply pointing out facts is cause for being Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #11

Big difference between pointing out facts and deflecting blame. Paladin Jul 2021 #12

In that thread, I was asked what impact the "Lego gun" would have on shootings commited by toddlers. Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #13

My comment was with regard to comments in this thread. Paladin Jul 2021 #14

Fair enough. Regarding the comments in this thread, then: How does pointing out an inaccurate Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #15

Hang on to that "inaccurate headline" angle all you want. Paladin Jul 2021 #16

I agree that the cease and desist letter made the manufacture of this kit moot. But nowhere have I Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #17

Utah Company Suspends Lego Handgun Case Kits Sales After Cease And Desist Eugene Jul 2021 #10

Does not bother me too much EX500rider Jul 2021 #18

I know. Not much bothers a gunner. No matter that 40-50 toddlers shoot themselves AndyS Jul 2021 #19

Fact: all firearms regardless of color should be safely secured around children EX500rider Jul 2021 #20

So when you can convince your gunner comrades to AndyS Jul 2021 #21

I am only responsible for firearms I might own, strangers will do whatever they do. EX500rider Jul 2021 #22

I see. While you don't see yourself as part of the problem AndyS Jul 2021 #23

Anymore then I feel responsible for strangers who DUI because I also own a car. EX500rider Jul 2021 #24

Ok, let me lower the heat that I brought to this. AndyS Jul 2021 #25

If I might jump in.... Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #27

Thanks for that but you seem to have missed the point. AndyS Jul 2021 #28

What exactly are you asking for? Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #29

*Sigh* I've told you what I'm asking for. AndyS Jul 2021 #30

Gun people are already discussing gun safety, and always have been. Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #31

Lather, rinse, repeat. After 40 years it gets tiring. Good day, sir. AndyS Jul 2021 #32

That's all you have? Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #33

If I might jump in... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2021 #35

I would certainly be open to private sellers having access to the NICS. Quite reasonable. Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #36

The problem, Andy, is that the 'real' answers to violence aren't easy and we all know it. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2021 #37

Ah yes, standard gun talking point #23 (or somewhere) on the list of well rehearsed AndyS Jul 2021 #38

Well allrighty then. From your silence and after re-reading the up-thread posts AndyS Jul 2021 #26

It's just not a cause I feel I could do much to change how strangers store their guns. EX500rider Jul 2021 #34