Gun Control & RKBA

AndyS

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30. *Sigh* I've told you what I'm asking for.

Tue Jul 20, 2021, 08:24 AM

Jul 2021

I've been asking gun people the same thing for about 40 years.

Who is better prepared to discuss gun violence prevention than someone who knows guns and gun safety/responsibility?

Who is better prepared to design violence prevention programs?

I'm asking the gun culture and everyone in it to take part. I've been doing that for 40 years. For forty years I've gotten the same response I've gotten from 500 and from you: I'm okay and don't give a shit about your kids and Who, me?

I keep hearing that it's just the few irresponsible gun owners who are the problem. So tell me HOW IN HELL DO YOU PROPOSE TO STOP THAT FEW FROM GETTING THEIR HANDS ON GUNS? Any time someone suggests something it is met with 'only law abiding citizens . . .' So okay! Fuck the crooks! Save me and about 200,000 other Americans from 'law abiding citizens!

So if I've been terse in our past conversations, now you know why. I've heard everything you say more times than I can count over 4 decades and it just never changes. Lap up talking points, swallow, regurgitate and FOR GOD'S SAKE DON'T LISTEN TO ANYTHING THAT MAKES YOU UNCOMFORTABLE.

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'SUPER FUN': A gun covered in Legos to look like a toy sets off a furor [View all] mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2021 OP

Now they are saying it outloud, an unfired gun is just no fun! sanatanadharma Jul 2021 #1

If one is participating in recreational shooting, that does neccesitate shooting firearms, yes? Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #4

A child would certainly want to play with it. keithbvadu2 Jul 2021 #2

Horrible idea DashOneBravo Jul 2021 #3

Poor reporting sarisataka Jul 2021 #5

Thank you for the update. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2021 #6

No, extraordinarily poor judgment by a gun manufacturer. Paladin Jul 2021 #7

I blame the reporter sarisataka Jul 2021 #8

You're making my day. Many thanks. (nt) Paladin Jul 2021 #9

As I discovered when discussing this story in GD, simply pointing out facts is cause for being Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #11

Big difference between pointing out facts and deflecting blame. Paladin Jul 2021 #12

In that thread, I was asked what impact the "Lego gun" would have on shootings commited by toddlers. Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #13

My comment was with regard to comments in this thread. Paladin Jul 2021 #14

Fair enough. Regarding the comments in this thread, then: How does pointing out an inaccurate Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #15

Hang on to that "inaccurate headline" angle all you want. Paladin Jul 2021 #16

I agree that the cease and desist letter made the manufacture of this kit moot. But nowhere have I Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #17

Utah Company Suspends Lego Handgun Case Kits Sales After Cease And Desist Eugene Jul 2021 #10

Does not bother me too much EX500rider Jul 2021 #18

I know. Not much bothers a gunner. No matter that 40-50 toddlers shoot themselves AndyS Jul 2021 #19

Fact: all firearms regardless of color should be safely secured around children EX500rider Jul 2021 #20

So when you can convince your gunner comrades to AndyS Jul 2021 #21

I am only responsible for firearms I might own, strangers will do whatever they do. EX500rider Jul 2021 #22

I see. While you don't see yourself as part of the problem AndyS Jul 2021 #23

Anymore then I feel responsible for strangers who DUI because I also own a car. EX500rider Jul 2021 #24

Ok, let me lower the heat that I brought to this. AndyS Jul 2021 #25

If I might jump in.... Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #27

Thanks for that but you seem to have missed the point. AndyS Jul 2021 #28

What exactly are you asking for? Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #29

*Sigh* I've told you what I'm asking for. AndyS Jul 2021 #30

Gun people are already discussing gun safety, and always have been. Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #31

Lather, rinse, repeat. After 40 years it gets tiring. Good day, sir. AndyS Jul 2021 #32

That's all you have? Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #33

If I might jump in... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2021 #35

I would certainly be open to private sellers having access to the NICS. Quite reasonable. Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #36

The problem, Andy, is that the 'real' answers to violence aren't easy and we all know it. Decoy of Fenris Jul 2021 #37

Ah yes, standard gun talking point #23 (or somewhere) on the list of well rehearsed AndyS Jul 2021 #38

Well allrighty then. From your silence and after re-reading the up-thread posts AndyS Jul 2021 #26

It's just not a cause I feel I could do much to change how strangers store their guns. EX500rider Jul 2021 #34