Gun Control & RKBA

PTWB

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46. Try again.

Tue Jul 19, 2022, 05:11 PM

Jul 2022

Read what I wrote this time.

The indisputable fact is that if you choose to be compliant in the face of a deadly threat from a violent, armed attacker, you're allowing that attacker to decide whether you live or die.

When a compliant victim is murdered by their attacker, who makes that decision if not the attacker?

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Would-be robber shot and killed by intended victim in west Houston, police say [View all] PTWB Jul 2022 OP

So a guy withdraws $100 and another guy says give it to me AndyS Jul 2022 #1

Exactly!! WWJD?? Most of these people are also religious. Killing someone for $100? That's insane Pisces Jul 2022 #2

Most of the gangers out there would kill you for less. n/t oneshooter Jul 2022 #3

Maybe, but I would hand that money over quick, not reach for a gun. I also give money to panhandlers Pisces Jul 2022 #6

So you hand it over quick. oneshooter Jul 2022 #63

So that's the standard you hold yourself to? Figures. Life's cheap for gunners. nt AndyS Jul 2022 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author oneshooter Jul 2022 #4

So, I work 6 hours of minimum wage to earn $100 Hangingon Jul 2022 #5

Okay, you're on record for a human life being worth maybe $100. Duly noted. nt AndyS Jul 2022 #8

Proud to be on record for it. Hangingon Jul 2022 #11

Proud of yersef, are ya'? Not sure what ya' mean about me determining society . . . nt AndyS Jul 2022 #13

Well "determination" should be deterioration. Hangingon Jul 2022 #16

What's the record worth when a criminal grabs your kids ? DashOneBravo Jul 2022 #79

Asinine question and flamebait. Not biting. AndyS Jul 2022 #81

Hang on sir DashOneBravo Aug 2022 #90

Setting the record straight re sniper school. AndyS Aug 2022 #91

Thanks for explaining that. DashOneBravo Aug 2022 #92

'69-'71 AndyS Aug 2022 #93

It's a life. Sorry but 6 hours of work is not worth someone's life. I hope that person was going to Pisces Jul 2022 #9

The $100 would have fed the shooter's children. Hangingon Jul 2022 #12

Clearly life has no value, at least not to gunners. nt AndyS Jul 2022 #14

Your concentration on the gun issue has caused you to lose sight of reality. Hangingon Jul 2022 #17

That's how you see it? And you think I'm blinded by guns??? AndyS Jul 2022 #21

Nice attempt to regain lost high ground Hangingon Jul 2022 #23

Nice circular argument. Also nice deflection. AndyS Jul 2022 #25

Well, I think it is time to heed my father's advice from long ago. Hangingon Jul 2022 #27

Apples and oranges. We are discussing a life. In America life has no value unless you're a fetus. Pisces Jul 2022 #15

That is sad. Hangingon Jul 2022 #18

How so? yagotme Jul 2022 #87

You seem to have missed the part about ManiacJoe Jul 2022 #76

No, I didn't miss that. It just doesn't seem to fit most scenarios. AndyS Jul 2022 #78

Good riddance The Mouth Aug 2022 #89

Appears that shoot outs are going to be common now in the US. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #10

Assuming that someone who points a gun at you doesn't intend to shoot you... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2022 #19

Amen Hangingon Jul 2022 #20

Where the fuck did you get that factoid? AndyS Jul 2022 #22

Well I read that too. Hangingon Jul 2022 #26

Answer this for me: AndyS Jul 2022 #28

We only know what is in the 3 paragraphs. That is what we deal with. Hangingon Jul 2022 #29

Again, fantasizing scenarios that justify killing a human over a few bucks. I'm gonna' AndyS Jul 2022 #30

In my final response to your repeated attempts to make a crook a hero.. Hangingon Jul 2022 #32

I have not made anyone a hero. I have put human life above cash. You are on record for being AndyS Jul 2022 #33

You really can't see beyond the simplest thing when guns are involved Hangingon Jul 2022 #35

"that needed to happen was to give the guy the money and nobody would die. " oneshooter Jul 2022 #66

This is at least worth a reply, barely. AndyS Jul 2022 #77

It's incredible... PTWB Jul 2022 #31

I have not said any of that. AndyS Jul 2022 #36

"What I DID do is say that human life is worth more than a few dollars." oneshooter Jul 2022 #67

Flame bait and I'm not biteing. AndyS Jul 2022 #74

"I'm shocked at the amount of victim blaming going on." AndyS Jul 2022 #24

The armed robber fired his gun at the victim. PTWB Jul 2022 #34

The article doesn't back up what you said. AndyS Jul 2022 #37

You'll have to try again. PTWB Jul 2022 #38

For the LAST time I'm not blaming the victim. AndyS Jul 2022 #39

How is this not blaming the victim? PTWB Jul 2022 #40

You can keep saying that but nobody is buying what you're selling. AndyS Jul 2022 #41

Looks like several folks in the thread don't appreciate the victim blaming. PTWB Jul 2022 #42

Once again, No it is not indisputable. In fact all the data refute that. nt AndyS Jul 2022 #43

LOL PTWB Jul 2022 #44

It is not indisputable that resisting is a better course of action than not resisting. AndyS Jul 2022 #45

Try again. PTWB Jul 2022 #46

No, I'm not playing that semantic game. I'm not letting you define some narrow AndyS Jul 2022 #47

The only one playing the semantics game is you. PTWB Jul 2022 #48

Welll . . . AndyS Jul 2022 #49

That isn't what the statistics say. PTWB Jul 2022 #50

That is what the statistics say. AndyS Jul 2022 #51

That isn't how statistics work my friend. PTWB Jul 2022 #52

Just tellin' ya' what the science says. AndyS Jul 2022 #53

That still isn't how statistics work. PTWB Jul 2022 #54

I don't believe in Superman. AndyS Jul 2022 #55

So... PTWB Jul 2022 #56

Wasn't answering that question but under most circumstances you have arguably a AndyS Jul 2022 #57

No reason. PTWB Jul 2022 #58

Yeah, you're the only exception. Right. AndyS Jul 2022 #59

Lol PTWB Jul 2022 #60

Here: AndyS Jul 2022 #61

Hmmm.. PTWB Jul 2022 #62

Okay, I'll modify my wording. Your are AN exception (in your own mind). AndyS Jul 2022 #64

Exception was your word. PTWB Jul 2022 #68

Oh Jesus fucking Christ this is so fucking tedious. AndyS Jul 2022 #72

I've addressed the statistics being twisted in a separate post and will include the link PTWB Jul 2022 #82

It's NOT about some ficticious self defense scenario. AndyS Jul 2022 #84

Despite your repititions... PTWB Jul 2022 #85

I've got an appointment soon so I'll bid you good evening. AndyS Jul 2022 #65

The robber was not killed over an ATM withdrawal. PTWB Jul 2022 #69

You got all this from 3 paragraphs? AndyS Jul 2022 #73

That's incorrect. PTWB Jul 2022 #83

Don't be shocked. DashOneBravo Jul 2022 #70

There is a strong contingent who hate self defense DashOneBravo Jul 2022 #71

See as an older woman I would be afraid that he would take my bank card, my car and then flying_wahini Jul 2022 #75

What I see through many replies in this thread: discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2022 #80

Good riddance. The Mouth Jul 2022 #86

As soon as the word "gun" melm00se Jul 2022 #88

Post removed Post removed Aug 2022 #94

Good riddance. Happy ending. The Mouth Aug 2022 #95