Gun Control & RKBA

Straw Man

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64. How about late 1920s Germany?

Sun Oct 16, 2022, 01:35 AM

Oct 2022

Hitler's rise to power came after extensive street warfare between right-wing and left-wing militias. Guess which side prevailed. Guess which side would prevail if this type of warfare started here tomorrow.

The grim lesson offered by the German experience is that once fascism takes power there is no turning back. Fascism destroys any and all opposition and thus is life-threatening for all organisations of the left. Under no conditions may the rivalries and differences among left organisations be allowed to block the united struggle against the Nazis. Building broad and united anti-fascist fronts has to be the priority of every socialist organisation. To trust the police and the state to stop the fascists is as foolish today as it was then.

https://isj.org.uk/divided-they-fell-the-german-left-and-the-rise-of-hitler/

I would substitute "center and left-of-center" for "socialist" in the second-to-last sentence above, maybe because I'm a brainwashed American centrist. Nevertheless, the statement rings true. The Trumpies are going to take another run at it, and what happens if they succeed this time?

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In my opinion, it's time for every liberal to purchase a semi-automatic rifle [View all] LongtimeAZDem Jul 2022 OP

I said essentially the same thing after January 6th PTWB Jul 2022 #1

+1 LongtimeAZDem Jul 2022 #2

Just because having a gun in the house vastly increases PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2022 #3

I like to sleep with mine! dchill Jul 2022 #4

Thats all true.... TheRealNorth Jul 2022 #7

Ha! The thought of a bunch of Rambos 'taking the country back' is fucking laughable! AndyS Jul 2022 #5

So if you were a Jew in 1930's Germany.... TheRealNorth Jul 2022 #8

+1 LongtimeAZDem Jul 2022 #16

If I were an armed Jew in 1930s Germany AndyS Jul 2022 #21

Apologies in advance sarisataka Jul 2022 #23

Thanks!! I deserved that! I'm such a piss poor speller that if the spell checker AndyS Jul 2022 #24

Yes- and in this we are in sarisataka Jul 2022 #25

Let me know how that solution works out for you.... TheRealNorth Jul 2022 #27

Having been in a country with an active civil war sarisataka Jul 2022 #29

Post removed Post removed Jul 2022 #31

Nice try sarisataka Jul 2022 #33

Post removed Post removed Jul 2022 #35

Still no sarisataka Jul 2022 #36

"Power lies in the ballet, not the bullet" LongtimeAZDem Jul 2022 #44

So . . . AndyS Jul 2022 #46

No LongtimeAZDem Jul 2022 #48

Then please elaborate on exactly what you are suggesting. AndyS Jul 2022 #51

Not answering for him, but for myself. Straw Man Oct 2022 #65

Exactly +1 LongtimeAZDem Oct 2022 #68

When the Jews DID finally organize, and started fighting back, yagotme Jul 2022 #58

How about late 1920s Germany? Straw Man Oct 2022 #64

Doesn't do much good unless you include military style training Kaleva Jul 2022 #6

There is truth to that... TheRealNorth Jul 2022 #10

the gun manufacturers mikeysnot Jul 2022 #9

Goverment surplus rifles are available. nt sl8 Jul 2022 #22

Liberals should also form our own Shooting Clubs. sop Jul 2022 #11

There is the Liberal Gun Club (LGC) TheRealNorth Jul 2022 #14

Paint ball would be better Kaleva Jul 2022 #15

K&r d_b Jul 2022 #12

And support the manufactureres of these killing machines? Ferrets are Cool Jul 2022 #13

I agree 100%. MenloParque Jul 2022 #17

I myself don't own weapons. Just one more thing to take care of Tetrachloride Jul 2022 #18

Well, that was fast... jcmaine72 Jul 2022 #19

A fair number of my liberal and progressive friends are armed and well-equipped niyad Jul 2022 #20

Or, you could channel that anger more safely and effectively. BWdem4life Jul 2022 #26

It's not anger at all LongtimeAZDem Jul 2022 #32

Some of the people here that don't understand the anxiety or fear TheRealNorth Jul 2022 #37

Nahhh, EVERYONE'S GOT ONE ANY MORE usonian Jul 2022 #28

Got rid of my .45 awhile ago, MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2022 #30

We currently have a plethora of choices sarisataka Jul 2022 #34

I kinda like this one. MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2022 #55

Good choice sarisataka Jul 2022 #56

Went today to my local firearms store and bought the 1991A1 in .45 ACP, MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2022 #59

I highly recommend d_b Jul 2022 #41

Don't forget to buy ammo windje Jul 2022 #38

"Well, a gun that's unloaded and cocked ain't worth nuthin'" yagotme Jul 2022 #57

Words of caution discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2022 #39

Good advice; thank you for your comments LongtimeAZDem Jul 2022 #40

You're welcome. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2022 #47

I mostly agree with what you said.... TheRealNorth Jul 2022 #42

We all saw Red Dawn. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2022 #53

+1 Kaleva Jul 2022 #43

Every Liberal should already HAVE a semi-auto rifle. beemerphill Jul 2022 #45

+1 LongtimeAZDem Jul 2022 #49

Not just every liberal but also every LGBTQIA+ person vercetti2021 Jul 2022 #50

vercetti2021 beemerphill Jul 2022 #52

Well, I've always liked the quotes from..... Fla_Democrat Jul 2022 #54

In the past year, my wife and I have both gotten our CPLs radicalleft Jul 2022 #60

I've been reposting this for years: LongtimeAZDem Jul 2022 #61

to do what with? GenXer47 Sep 2022 #62

It is not about murder. ManiacJoe Sep 2022 #63

Not a bad idea, but I would rather ban all firearms from general public ownership. No text TeamProg Oct 2022 #66

Which you know damn good and well that will never happen, MarineCombatEngineer Oct 2022 #67

I'll pass (nt) old as dirt Dec 2022 #69