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AndyS

(14,559 posts)
11. I did not ignore your point about punishing past deeds. Just followed gun logic to the
Sun Jun 25, 2023, 05:43 PM
Jun 2023

terminal point.

Employers and family? Yes I do think an employer and family are qualified to judge a person's character. They are also capable of not commenting at all which many would unless there is a reason to speak up. Families and employers (even domestic partners) evaluate evidence of character and mental stability every day all day. Just like a jury. So do you. If you lived with someone who showed signs of depression and self harm would you be capable of seeing it? If your son belonged to a white supremicist group that advocated the death of all black people would you advocate arming him?

A jury's verdict is subjective. lt only requires belief beyond a reasonable doubt. That's good enough to take a perso's life but somehow you can't see it as good enough to restrict access to deadly weapons. You position is that there can be absolutely no doubt whatsoever. Machine logic, ones and zeros. Life and society and the law don't work that way. You don't work that way. Constitutional rights all have limits, period. It's about time gunners realize that applies to the holy 2nd as well as the others.

I'll stop talking about this topic with you. It is pointless. Reason and judgment cannot penetrate the religion that is gun love.

Here in Maine... Easterncedar Jun 2023 #1
I'm on the 'gun enthusiast' (or 'Gun humper') side of things here, but The Mouth Jun 2023 #2
Thank you for at least admitting that some people have no business AndyS Jun 2023 #3
LOL The Mouth Jun 2023 #4
So AndyS Jun 2023 #5
What sort of "prevention" are we talking about? TexasDem69 Jun 2023 #6
I would modify the 'background check' to make it a AndyS Jun 2023 #7
Thanks for the response. TexasDem69 Jun 2023 #8
So, like Mouth you are satisfied with 'law abiding citizens' buying guns which AndyS Jun 2023 #9
I feel like you didn't really read my post TexasDem69 Jun 2023 #10
I did not ignore your point about punishing past deeds. Just followed gun logic to the AndyS Jun 2023 #11
Thanks again for the response TexasDem69 Jun 2023 #12
Look, I've commented on employers and family as much as needed. AndyS Jun 2023 #14
Thanks for responding TexasDem69 Jun 2023 #15
Again, you're not very good at this. AndyS Jun 2023 #16
Thanks sir TexasDem69 Jun 2023 #17
Let me ask this question TexasDem69 Jun 2023 #13
By 'law abiding citizens', do you actually mean "law abiding citizens"? yagotme Jun 2023 #18
If a gun is purchased legally through a FFL then one must assume AndyS Jun 2023 #19
Sure, I'll try to help. yagotme Jun 2023 #20
Okay: AndyS Jun 2023 #21
Well, we agree on the end result. yagotme Jun 2023 #22
Okay, so I guess your position is that the only way to lessen the carnage is AndyS Jun 2023 #24
Nope. My remedy is to lock those up who actually violate the law. yagotme Jul 2023 #39
The discussion can start The Mouth Jun 2023 #23
Keep it up Mouth. You're the best advertising for my movement anyone AndyS Jun 2023 #25
I surely will The Mouth Jun 2023 #26
LOL AndyS Jun 2023 #27
Thanks The Mouth Jun 2023 #28
So how do you feel about this? AndyS Jun 2023 #29
It has exactly nothing to do with whether The Mouth Jun 2023 #30
So, you don't think it is within the responsibility of the state to AndyS Jun 2023 #31
It's the responsibility of the parents. Period The Mouth Jun 2023 #32
If the State has no interest in protecting children from irresponsible parents AndyS Jun 2023 #33
Great questions The Mouth Jun 2023 #34
The question I'm asking doesn't have anything to do with your demands. AndyS Jun 2023 #35
This is a question about *parenting* The Mouth Jun 2023 #36
Just one more question for clarity and I'll stop AndyS Jun 2023 #37
I do not think and did not say "The state has no interest in children's welfare in general" The Mouth Jun 2023 #38
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