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yagotme

(3,819 posts)
20. Sure, I'll try to help.
Tue Jun 27, 2023, 10:14 AM
Jun 2023

1. Background checks are limited to what information is/ is allowed to be put in the system. I have been stating for quite a while that NICS need updating, and quickly. Perhaps the HIPAA act should be slightly modified, also, allowing those that have been threatening/truly unbalanced to be placed in the system as well. I know, this is a touchy subject for some, but mental instability should be treated as a possible "switch" for violence, especially if the individual is showing signs.

2. Legally buying a gun, and then, sometime down the road, using it for a heretofore unplanned crime, is an impossibility to predict. Waiting times are not effective. Background checks are not effective. The only effective way to handle this, is to make ALL guns illegal. Not gonna happen. Thankfully, I'm sure that this is a small piece of the pie, taking away suicides, which kinda fall under par.1.

3. Enhanced sentences. Yeah. How often are they actually used, or are they used more often to get a "plea" to a reduced charge? My belief is, that committers of violent crimes should be locked up, and for longer, if a gun is used, but it seems a lot of cities/states aren't doing that. Someone commits a class 2 murder, gets 8 years, out in 5. Fair? No. But that's how our system is running things at times. Tired of hearing of a killings, and the news is "Person XXX, accused of multiple murders, has an extensive rap sheet. Locked up for 1 year on a recent violent assault charge, out on parole 6 months later." If a lot of these criminals were in jail for the time they SHOULD have received for their crime, a lot of these killings would go away.

4. "what the hell constitutes a law abiding citizen that legally buys a gun and why so many of them kill people" Well, the person in the OP was not that law abiding, really, as he was making threats against individuals/place of business. Take away suicides, take away those that technically should have not been able to purchase firearms, and I think the actual number of "lawful citizen" crimes will be a rather small percentage.

Hope this helps you out trying to understand my position.

Here in Maine... Easterncedar Jun 2023 #1
I'm on the 'gun enthusiast' (or 'Gun humper') side of things here, but The Mouth Jun 2023 #2
Thank you for at least admitting that some people have no business AndyS Jun 2023 #3
LOL The Mouth Jun 2023 #4
So AndyS Jun 2023 #5
What sort of "prevention" are we talking about? TexasDem69 Jun 2023 #6
I would modify the 'background check' to make it a AndyS Jun 2023 #7
Thanks for the response. TexasDem69 Jun 2023 #8
So, like Mouth you are satisfied with 'law abiding citizens' buying guns which AndyS Jun 2023 #9
I feel like you didn't really read my post TexasDem69 Jun 2023 #10
I did not ignore your point about punishing past deeds. Just followed gun logic to the AndyS Jun 2023 #11
Thanks again for the response TexasDem69 Jun 2023 #12
Look, I've commented on employers and family as much as needed. AndyS Jun 2023 #14
Thanks for responding TexasDem69 Jun 2023 #15
Again, you're not very good at this. AndyS Jun 2023 #16
Thanks sir TexasDem69 Jun 2023 #17
Let me ask this question TexasDem69 Jun 2023 #13
By 'law abiding citizens', do you actually mean "law abiding citizens"? yagotme Jun 2023 #18
If a gun is purchased legally through a FFL then one must assume AndyS Jun 2023 #19
Sure, I'll try to help. yagotme Jun 2023 #20
Okay: AndyS Jun 2023 #21
Well, we agree on the end result. yagotme Jun 2023 #22
Okay, so I guess your position is that the only way to lessen the carnage is AndyS Jun 2023 #24
Nope. My remedy is to lock those up who actually violate the law. yagotme Jul 2023 #39
The discussion can start The Mouth Jun 2023 #23
Keep it up Mouth. You're the best advertising for my movement anyone AndyS Jun 2023 #25
I surely will The Mouth Jun 2023 #26
LOL AndyS Jun 2023 #27
Thanks The Mouth Jun 2023 #28
So how do you feel about this? AndyS Jun 2023 #29
It has exactly nothing to do with whether The Mouth Jun 2023 #30
So, you don't think it is within the responsibility of the state to AndyS Jun 2023 #31
It's the responsibility of the parents. Period The Mouth Jun 2023 #32
If the State has no interest in protecting children from irresponsible parents AndyS Jun 2023 #33
Great questions The Mouth Jun 2023 #34
The question I'm asking doesn't have anything to do with your demands. AndyS Jun 2023 #35
This is a question about *parenting* The Mouth Jun 2023 #36
Just one more question for clarity and I'll stop AndyS Jun 2023 #37
I do not think and did not say "The state has no interest in children's welfare in general" The Mouth Jun 2023 #38
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