Gun Control & RKBA

The Mouth

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23. The discussion can start

Tue Jun 27, 2023, 01:26 PM

Jun 2023

*AFTER* constitutional carry is affirmed for everyone in all states, the SCOTUS affirms that no state or local government can have the slightest control, input, or authority over what a law-abiding citizen can purchase, own, or carry, and that full criminal and civil immunity is established for *ALL* cases of the use of force against anyone attempting to deprive a citizen of life or property.

Once reasonable gun rights are finally recognized for all law abiding citizens, everywhere (except on private property of those who do not allow them) then we can begin a discussion for the legal means of identifying who should *not* have them and implementing restrictions. I would say that if you can't carry, you shouldn't be able to vote, and vice versa, but I will not accept anything that makes it harder to purchase, carry and- if necessary use- a firearm than it is to vote in an election.

Until reasonable rights to keep and bear arms are established to the degree that no extrinsic authority can control what a law-abiding citizen can buy, own, or carry, nope, not the slightest interest in interacting with gun control advocates.

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Here in Maine... Easterncedar Jun 2023 #1

I'm on the 'gun enthusiast' (or 'Gun humper') side of things here, but The Mouth Jun 2023 #2

Thank you for at least admitting that some people have no business AndyS Jun 2023 #3

LOL The Mouth Jun 2023 #4

So AndyS Jun 2023 #5

What sort of "prevention" are we talking about? TexasDem69 Jun 2023 #6

I would modify the 'background check' to make it a AndyS Jun 2023 #7

Thanks for the response. TexasDem69 Jun 2023 #8

So, like Mouth you are satisfied with 'law abiding citizens' buying guns which AndyS Jun 2023 #9

I feel like you didn't really read my post TexasDem69 Jun 2023 #10

I did not ignore your point about punishing past deeds. Just followed gun logic to the AndyS Jun 2023 #11

Thanks again for the response TexasDem69 Jun 2023 #12

Look, I've commented on employers and family as much as needed. AndyS Jun 2023 #14

Thanks for responding TexasDem69 Jun 2023 #15

Again, you're not very good at this. AndyS Jun 2023 #16

Thanks sir TexasDem69 Jun 2023 #17

Let me ask this question TexasDem69 Jun 2023 #13

By 'law abiding citizens', do you actually mean "law abiding citizens"? yagotme Jun 2023 #18

If a gun is purchased legally through a FFL then one must assume AndyS Jun 2023 #19

Sure, I'll try to help. yagotme Jun 2023 #20

Okay: AndyS Jun 2023 #21

Well, we agree on the end result. yagotme Jun 2023 #22

Okay, so I guess your position is that the only way to lessen the carnage is AndyS Jun 2023 #24

Nope. My remedy is to lock those up who actually violate the law. yagotme Jul 2023 #39

The discussion can start The Mouth Jun 2023 #23

Keep it up Mouth. You're the best advertising for my movement anyone AndyS Jun 2023 #25

I surely will The Mouth Jun 2023 #26

LOL AndyS Jun 2023 #27

Thanks The Mouth Jun 2023 #28

So how do you feel about this? AndyS Jun 2023 #29

It has exactly nothing to do with whether The Mouth Jun 2023 #30

So, you don't think it is within the responsibility of the state to AndyS Jun 2023 #31

It's the responsibility of the parents. Period The Mouth Jun 2023 #32

If the State has no interest in protecting children from irresponsible parents AndyS Jun 2023 #33

Great questions The Mouth Jun 2023 #34

The question I'm asking doesn't have anything to do with your demands. AndyS Jun 2023 #35

This is a question about *parenting* The Mouth Jun 2023 #36

Just one more question for clarity and I'll stop AndyS Jun 2023 #37

I do not think and did not say "The state has no interest in children's welfare in general" The Mouth Jun 2023 #38