Gun Control & RKBA

I'll be interested in discussing them once my RKBA rights are no longer on the negotiating table.

Starting point for any discussion is, as I said above, an absolute, irrefutable, and unchallenged acknowledgment that no entity has the say in what I purchase, carry, or use to defend my life or property; then we can discuss the cases where any governmental entity can propose restrictions on who can have what, where, outside of the same strictures attached to, say, voting.

Until even the most recalcitrant gun controller has the absolute inexorable and unquestionable reality that they have no say in what I buy or carry, nor that anyone has any legal or civil claim if I verifiably use force to defend my life or property planted firmly and permanently in front of them, we shall not give a nanometer to any further restrictions on firearms.

If you want 'a discussion', the starting point is that unless someone is impartially adjudicated to be incompetent to own or carry firearms- a standard that should be the same as for voting and require the same level of evidence as any other court case resulting in the removal of rights- they may do as they please unless on the private property of someone who prohibits same. Stop even talking about changing that and most of us are quite willing to go to great lengths to identify and assist in the removal from society of the truly dangerous folks. Nearly all of us would love to assist in teaching gun safety, something that would do more to prevent the deaths you mention than all the confiscations and limitations your heart could desire. If every high school had a CMP rifle team and every citizen who wanted a good quality rifle or pistol from the national surplus merely had to go through a few nights of practice and learning to be able to purchase one, you'd have a safer, not a more dangerous population.