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Gun Control & RKBA

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AndyS

(14,559 posts)
Thu Oct 26, 2023, 11:17 AM Oct 2023

The AR platform is no longer lethal enough for the Military. [View all]

Meet the NGSW, Next Generation Squad Weapon. The contract has been awarded and delivery is slowly beginning. If you want one the civilian version is already available to the public. In excess of $2000 a copy sales are slow but once the military contract pays for the tooling and R&D it should drop to AR levels.

The bullet is ~20% larger and the powder charge is increased to produce the same muzzle velocity of the smaller 5.56 NATO, 3000 feet per second. Improvements are an increased range (the smaller lighter 5.56 tends to bounce off some surfaces after ~100m) and the ability to penetrate the highest level ceramic body armor. Weight and portability match that of the AR platform.



I'm posting this with a simple question for the gun rightists here. Given the lethality of the AR15 and it's ascension to the gun of choice for mass shooters is there some level of lethality that should be with held from the public at large? At what point does the ability do destroy human life need to be restricted?

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Should not even be a wisp of a thought to release a civilian version... MiHale Oct 2023 #1
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2naSalit Oct 2023 #4
To the gun industry, dead children are merely collateral damage/acceptable losses for gun industry profits and political keithbvadu2 Oct 2023 #5
The military industrial complex and their lobby need Need NEED their profits. Got to pay the share holders, right? mitch96 Oct 2023 #6
ARs in this caliber have been available for civilian sales for decades hack89 Nov 2023 #19
Extremely troubling to me and I'm sure the vast majority KPN Oct 2023 #2
The increased power cartridge is an answer to the proliferation of body armor in conflict zones The Polack MSgt Oct 2023 #3
True but the new round would be helpful in killing police wearing body armor. TomSlick Oct 2023 #7
Most police body armor already get shredded by rifles DetroitLegalBeagle Oct 2023 #9
Bring back the assault weapons ban. Australia's has been very effective. brush Oct 2023 #8
Need to get the public behind this TexasDem69 Oct 2023 #13
Bullets like that have been availablefor decades for AR rifles hack89 Oct 2023 #10
30 MM Fla_Democrat Oct 2023 #11
Well, physically it has never been available over the counter. ManiacJoe Oct 2023 #14
True, which is why it should be restricted.... Fla_Democrat Oct 2023 #16
You aren't kidding. That thing is bigger than my car. Angleae Oct 2023 #17
Isn't is amazing HAB911 Oct 2023 #12
Hmmm. Lethal, military-type weapons from the military: yagotme Oct 2023 #15
The 5.56 AR design is no longer a weapon of war. SYFROYH Nov 2023 #18
The M-16 was made for spraying the jungle. pwb Dec 2023 #20
No, the Air Force pushed the M-16. yagotme Dec 2023 #22
You must know eh? pwb Dec 2023 #23
Google, much? yagotme Dec 2023 #24
So the Air Force ordered some? pwb Dec 2023 #25
They ordered the first ones, yes. yagotme Dec 2023 #26
Well you corrected me. pwb Dec 2023 #27
"No, is not a good word to lead off with it sounds pukey." yagotme Dec 2023 #28
O K pwb Dec 2023 #29
You're welcome. yagotme Dec 2023 #30
I will read your Journal for more enlightenment. pwb Dec 2023 #31
Well, that won't take long... nt yagotme Dec 2023 #33
No pwb Dec 2023 #34
Sorry to disappoint, as I don't use the Journal feature. yagotme Dec 2023 #35
Maybe I should ask questions pwb Dec 2023 #36
You have asked questions. yagotme Dec 2023 #37
My reply to the O P was a statement not a question. pwb Dec 2023 #38
You made a statement. I refuted it. The following are questions you asked me: yagotme Dec 2023 #39
Nobody has come to either of our aid so pwb Dec 2023 #40
And to you!!! yagotme Dec 2023 #41
Absolutely should be on sale anywhere and everywhere The Mouth Dec 2023 #21
That will come in handy for Trump's Turbineguy Dec 2023 #32
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