Gun Control & RKBA

tortoise1956

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85. At the risk of getting in deep shit,

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 07:49 PM

Nov 2012

I'd like to point out that you didn't have to be anti-Semitic to have been a holocaust enabler:

There were numerous good, decent people who didn't push back against the step-by-step campaign the National Socialist Party waged to gain and hold power. They simply couldn't believe that their fellow Germans were capable of the evil that was being plotted. While they didn't actively participate, their lack of action emboldened (enabled) the Nazis, leading to greater and greater repression and, ultimately, to the murder of millions of Jews, Gypsies, Catholics, disabled persons, and others who were considered "undesirable."

So in that sense, the remark in and of itself, without any supporting evidence, is not anti-Semitic.

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### (Closed) Discussion to create a process to un-ban members ### [View all] krispos42 Nov 2012 OP

You mean blocking, not banning. yardwork Nov 2012 #1

Oh I didn't know there was a difference. underthematrix Nov 2012 #3

Huge difference. yardwork Nov 2012 #18

I think this is an excellent idea. I would love for peeps to underthematrix Nov 2012 #2

The biggest lie is saying the holocaust would have been avoided if Jews became monsters graham4anything Nov 2012 #4

Trying to hijack the thread again? glacierbay Nov 2012 #6

I am not a group member as I never signed up. So it's not my place to yea or nay graham4anything Nov 2012 #9

You can still say yea or nay w/o being a group member glacierbay Nov 2012 #10

I don't believe in censorship, so that would be a bring the poster back vote graham4anything Nov 2012 #11

And that's your right to argue the message. nt. glacierbay Nov 2012 #12

There is no "group" or any "sign up". PavePusher Nov 2012 #24

You sign up when you post here. nt rrneck Nov 2012 #26

So reply when someone says otherwise 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #13

You say, "The biggest lie is saying the holocaust would have been avoided if Jews became monsters" AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #19

Huh? I am arguing the post not the person. And I would not censor anyone. graham4anything Nov 2012 #20

rDigital is the subject of the OP. Your post #4 is either related or unrelated to rDigital. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #29

"saying the holocaust would have been avoided if Jews became monsters" PavePusher Nov 2012 #23

Is this the thread to discuss rDigital's rehabilitation? JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2012 #5

It's to create the process of reinstatement... krispos42 Nov 2012 #89

My vote and opinion is that there should be no formalized standards, rules, procedures, petronius Nov 2012 #7

so then, are you saying that all previously blocked DUers should be reinstated? Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #43

Yes. I think we all have the tools to personalize our own DU experiences, and if petronius Nov 2012 #48

follow up question, if I may Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #49

No, I think it makes more sense to discuss Group stuff within the particular Group petronius Nov 2012 #50

so, if One is unhappy with what goes on here One should be able to start a thread about it rather Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #51

I think that would be preferable, yes... (nt) petronius Nov 2012 #56

Absolutely tortoise1956 Nov 2012 #84

I think that he did go over the line with his thread glacierbay Nov 2012 #8

If he was wrong then surely open debate is the answer 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #14

Nope glacierbay Nov 2012 #15

Agreed. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #21

His was just a single offense. Let him back. N/T GreenStormCloud Nov 2012 #16

The lead host of a group has considerable if not autocratic power rrneck Nov 2012 #17

Track their behavior in general, in other forums and groups DonP Nov 2012 #22

IIRC, the post in question was this one: PavePusher Nov 2012 #25

Could it be this one? AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #30

Correct.... PavePusher Nov 2012 #33

Thanks for the additional links. n/t AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #39

Hogwash fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #58

That post was clearly satire tularetom Nov 2012 #31

Given the timing and context of another post (identified at #30), I agree. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #32

has rdigital said anything to indicate that he no longer agrees with Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #27

He may still agree with it glacierbay Nov 2012 #28

Respectfully, I don't know exactly what "rightwing nonsense" that WStupidity is referring to so AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #37

I Don't Think Either One Needs to Apologize for How They Feel fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #60

Hoyt has not stopped making unfounded associations/accusations about gun owners... PavePusher Nov 2012 #34

Hoyt is not be recalled for exile. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #80

Hoyt has made it very clear that he's not going to stop his nonsense glacierbay Nov 2012 #82

Hoyt said much worse things gejohnston Nov 2012 #83

In contrast to your claim, rDigital never indicated that he agreed with the rw nonsense. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #35

Even if what you say is true fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #62

Um that is simply untrue. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #74

What you say is not only unresponsive but it is veritably untrue. Those who look can see this. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #75

rDigital made a broad brush attack of virulent anti-semitic racism... Agnosticsherbet Nov 2012 #36

No he did not. You cannot point to where he "made a broad brush attack of virulent anti-semitic AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #38

If this was the question.. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2012 #44

Your accusation does not follow from the lead sentence in the OP. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #52

At the risk of getting in deep shit, tortoise1956 Nov 2012 #85

Got a link rrneck Nov 2012 #40

According to the OP, this was the questions. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2012 #46

This has been debunked. See #52. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #54

I saw no implication of antisemitism in the OP in question. rrneck Nov 2012 #66

Some fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #70

While the terms rrneck Nov 2012 #71

I Understand That fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #72

And a happy Thanksgiving to you. rrneck Nov 2012 #73

Here's a little help: PavePusher Nov 2012 #41

This was the question. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2012 #47

This has been debunked. See #52. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #53

Bring Him Back fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #42

You said, "I can understand that a reasonable person would conclude the ban was justifiable ..." AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #55

Huh? fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #57

If you don't understand, AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #59

Yes fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #64

Now I understand. You are the one who posted AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #61

No One Is Stopping You From Responding fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #63

vote to reinstate rdigital - Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #45

Why don't we have means to ban for time periods? ileus Nov 2012 #65

We do krispos42 Nov 2012 #90

Just to outline my thinking discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2012 #67

Agree fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #68

Happy Thanksgiving to you as well :) discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2012 #69

The ONLY people I'd vote to block or ban snot Nov 2012 #76

How can you tell? nt rrneck Nov 2012 #77

Obvious - they get PPR'd petronius Nov 2012 #78

I agree; that's the problem. snot Nov 2012 #87

Three strikes rule. Remmah2 Nov 2012 #79

In general, I like the plan, and Digital should be reinstated. Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #81

Either bring him back, I believe that he has honerably served his sentence. oneshooter Nov 2012 #86

so. whats the buzz? tell me whats happening. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #88

Locking krispos42 Nov 2012 #91