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Gun Control & RKBA

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ProgressiveProfessor

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Mon Dec 17, 2012, 07:19 AM Dec 2012

What kind of gun nut are you? [View all]

The term gun nut is tossed around here quite loosely. The problem is no one can agree on what the qualifications are and what separates a "good gun owner" from a gun nut. As the recently appointed worst Gungeoneer, this is my take on it. Though it may not be all inclusive, IME, gun owners fall into distinct groups but share some common features.
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Accidental/Casual: Inherited it, used to hunt 20 years ago etc. Firearm is inactive, in a closet somewhere (unsecured) no one knows where the ammo is.

Self Defense Only: Generally a newer owner, most likely a modern semi automatic handgun. One per adult, with the occasionally a .22LR pistol for low cost practice. No long guns. Meticulous about safety and securing weapons. Likely to have a CCW and carry at least part of the time.

Hunter/Outdoorman: Shotgun(s), hunting rifles which may include semi autos depending on the age of the owner. A hand gun or two, mostly older. A .22LR would be expected. Not always secured well. Might have an AR. Maybe a self defense hand gun or shotgun. Unlikely to have a CCW

Shooting Sports: Long guns depend on the sport, shotguns for clays, rifles for other kinds of shooting. An AR format rifle would be expected. Lots of handguns if a competitor there, otherwise 2-3 would be about the norm. .22LR rifles and pistol would also be there. Maybe a historic piece or two. Cowboy shooters also have a different mix, mostly reproductions of antique designs. Tend to be organized and keeps thing secured. May or may not have a CCW

Collector: Lots of weapons, mostly older, depends on the period of interest. Instead of 44Magnum with a laser sight, you might find a Webley or a SA Colt. Like most shooters .22LR and an AR would not be unusual. Tends to have some in display cases vice safes. Unlikely to have a CCW

Survivalist: Heavy focus on military style weapons with multiple copies within a family. Would also have shotguns, long range rifle, and .22LR weapons. Tend to secure things well and often wants to fly under the radar. Many hide it from friends and even family. Will have a CCW if its available and carries.

Gun Nuts: Different from the above since they focus on guns and not other activities. Rarer than some here think in that their lives revolve around guns. A Hunter type might wear camo in the field. These guys wear camo underwear. These types tend to have diverse and growing collections, without a lot of duplicates. Very big into accessorizing in addition to getting lots of firearms. Tends to secure them but also distributes a few for easy reach. Scary to most other gun owners. Will have a CCW if its available and carries.

Thugs/Criminals: Guns are integral to gang life, they are not called gang bangers for nothing. Guns are a statement of who they are but there goal is respect etc. They have modern pistols, mostly of better quality. Occasional semi auto rifles. All weapons possessed illegally and either stolen or straw purchased. Carries without a CCW. Poorly trained. Most dangerous of all groups and responsible for most gun violence in the country.

I am sure there are more groups that I could enumerate, but that is what comes to mind at the moment.
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Some thoughts on the above: Current numbers of households with firearms are mostly based on self identification, which is always questionable. I am comfortable with about 40-60% of American households having firearms, somewhere close to half. However the number of ones with active shooters is no more than 30%, quite possibly less. This is as much based on my experience than any scientific polls.

Its clear to me than numbers alone or the possession of one kind of firearm or another is not a primary indicator of gun nuttery or which group a person falls into. Its a fair bet that a trap or skeet shooter has many shotguns, but what else they have is impossible to tell. A collector with every WWI bolt action every made probably has an AR as well. Just about every gun owner has has some kind of .22LR.

One thing is clear, is that outside of the first two groups, anyone who is comfortable with firearms and likes using them is going to have a growing collection over time. Most don't sell anything they own. I fall into that category. I have never sold a weapon once I owned it. Its a hassle and I did not want the responsibility and liability. Easier just to move it to the back of the safe. That is changing for me now.

So in summary, there are many different types of gun owners, and most of them IME are not gun nuts (which clearly do exist). The issue is not number, or kind, but intent and attitude.Those not familiar with the different groups lump them all together. That is dumb, but it is happening with increasing frequency ("all gun owners have blood on their hands&quot . It polarizes the debate and ultimately reduces the opportunity for effective dialog and reform.


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I believe that this is topical for this forum since it address the kinds of gun owners there are and their preferences. I will gladly repost in GD is our hosts request it.

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What kind of gun nut are you? [View all] ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 OP
you seem to suggest that if one is a "collector", then would not be a "gun nut" DrDan Dec 2012 #1
As I said IME, its a matter of attitude, not quantity ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #2
What kind of "gun-grabber" are you? safeinOhio Dec 2012 #3
Trying to define terms is a reasonable thing ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #5
Terms like gun grabber and gun nut can not be defined safeinOhio Dec 2012 #9
Guns are boring BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #4
Yes, it is not where my skills lie ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #6
My brother and I used to take cans of pork and beans from the pantry BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #7
If we all had the same interests this would be a boring world. ... spin Dec 2012 #15
I do both holdencaufield Dec 2012 #34
Huh? BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #35
If owning a gun for self defense makes me a " gun nut ": then so be it. darkangel218 Dec 2012 #8
Sickening BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #10
If i would've been armed when i was attacked and raped, it wouldn't have happened! darkangel218 Dec 2012 #11
As long as its legal to own a gun, i will never give up mine! darkangel218 Dec 2012 #12
None of the above? jeepnstein Dec 2012 #13
1911 hardly a weapon of mass destruction hockeynut57 Dec 2012 #25
Seeing as how they don't allow us to carry nerve gas or nukes... jeepnstein Dec 2012 #29
8 in the clip 1 in the chamber. seems like a reasonable loadout for self defense. hockeynut57 Dec 2012 #31
Congratulations on your new appointment sarisataka Dec 2012 #14
Shooting sports and self defense because they're in the house. Remmah2 Dec 2012 #16
Shooting sports. nt hack89 Dec 2012 #17
None of the Above fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #18
No theyre not. darkangel218 Dec 2012 #19
Guns are Bad fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #20
Ok, but you said " guns are bad for you ". darkangel218 Dec 2012 #21
Guns are Bad fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #22
I beg to differ. But youre entitled to your own opinion. darkangel218 Dec 2012 #23
Fair Enough fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #24
Then I recommend you don't buy one holdencaufield Dec 2012 #37
I honestly don't feel that is the business of anybody on this board. madmom Dec 2012 #26
All of the above ... holdencaufield Dec 2012 #27
lol!! nt darkangel218 Dec 2012 #28
Ummm .... thanks? holdencaufield Dec 2012 #30
My statement is my personal assessment of the # of household with firearms ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #33
Guess i'm the "shooting sport nut." actslikeacarrot Dec 2012 #32
I'm the first Collector? Decoy of Fenris Dec 2012 #36
None of your classes define the paranoid hatred anti-RKBA's mean when they use the phrase. nt jody Dec 2012 #38
I have the first 5 covered. ileus Dec 2012 #39
Collector, occasional target shooter, volunteer firearm safety instructor slackmaster Dec 2012 #40
thug, dude. definitely gangsta thug. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #41
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