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sharedvalues

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11. No they are not critical.
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 06:32 PM
Jun 2018

Clearly even people on DU are influenced by the same GOP media machine if you believe the NYT (Politics and op-ed sections only) is critical enough of Trump.
(The NYT is still the paper of record and has a great great investigations department. It’s just their politics and opinion coverage has been cowed into false balance by GOP attacks.)

If you want to break out of that, read media outside America. Look at Der Spiegel or Le Monde (English trans) or The Economist or the non-tabloid non-conservative UK press: Guardian and maybe the Telegraph. Or the NY Daily News. Or EJ Dionne and Norm Orenstein and David Frum and Rick Wilson. THEY fairly tell the horrible truth about Trump without seeking false balance.

The NYT has been sold a bargeful of lies by the right wing press that they need to balance a pro-American party with an insane party. They are not nearly critical enough of the insanity. They normalize Trump and the GOP every single day.

For longer explanations of why the NYT is normalizing trump, read Jay Rosen (NYU journalism) or CJR or George Lakoff or Marsha Gessen or Garry Kasparov (or any anti-Putin Russian journalist).

The NYT is harming America with false balance. (NPR is even worse for the same reason). It’s sad but true.

The New Yorker or NY Mag or Wa Po are WAY WAY fairer sources towards the president today. Unfortunately none of them NYT today.

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I don't know, I see a lot of criticism of trump from the NYT. It's good to see. Hoyt Jun 2018 #1
Agreed, but it would be nice if they quoted congressional Democrats John Fante Jun 2018 #5
They do John, all the time. This OP is a hysterical hit piece. Nitram Jun 2018 #9
NYT has serious bothsideism and "savvy" journalism problems sharedvalues Jun 2018 #13
Sounds more like Trump's "Fake News Media." Nitram Jun 2018 #17
"The NYT is effectively pro-Trump." Comatose Sphagetti Jun 2018 #2
I remember it was the same way with George W Bush kimbutgar Jun 2018 #3
"Balance" is the biggest problem. sharedvalues Jun 2018 #7
The Times quotes Dems all the time. And is very critical of Trump. Nitram Jun 2018 #10
No they are not critical. sharedvalues Jun 2018 #11
You are wrong, The Times is extremely critical of Trump and the Republicans who enable him. Nitram Jun 2018 #15
Incorrect - and now who's supplying anecdata? sharedvalues Jun 2018 #20
Could you show me where I wrote that "truth and objectivity implies equal volume of criticism of Nitram Jun 2018 #22
You did a search sharedvalues Jun 2018 #24
Frankly, I want to know what They are up to, what they're doing, and what they're saying. Nitram Jun 2018 #25
Well said. N/t obnoxiousdrunk Jun 2018 #27
Well said Comatose Sphagetti Jun 2018 #14
No braddy Jun 2018 #4
NYT had a Republican Editor empedocles Jun 2018 #6
For this story to have any significance, it would have to inform us how many stories about Trump Nitram Jun 2018 #8
Read Jay Rosen. Masha Gessen. "Bothsidesism" is a thing sharedvalues Jun 2018 #12
I don't need to. I can go to the source and form my own opinion. Have you tried that? Nitram Jun 2018 #16
I've worked on PR. sharedvalues Jun 2018 #19
Save your sympathy for someone more deserving. Nitram Jun 2018 #21
Ok now I see your point sharedvalues Jun 2018 #23
NYT suffers from serious both sider-ism ladym55 Jun 2018 #18
good post yonder Jun 2018 #26
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2018 #28
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