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keithbvadu2

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23. cataracts parts 1 and 2
Sat Nov 12, 2022, 10:59 PM
Nov 2022

cataracts parts 1 and 2

I watched Patty's right eye cataract surgery on 17 Dec. 2013
(I had both of mine done earlier this year.) They had a small viewing room slightly above the operating room and a window to look in. Couldn't see a thing; too many people around the table. Instead, they had it on a flat screen tv. A giant eyeball with some clamps holding the eyelids open. It had to be the same view the doctor was seeing.
They cut two tiny slits at the bottom and left side of the eye. The LPN said about point two millimeters (maybe it was two mm). Then they put a metal probe in there (sometimes two) with a rounded tip.
Then they smooshed around the organic lens and broke it up into pieces. It had covered the whole eye. They inserted a small (everything is small) hollow tip in there and vacuumed out the pieces of lens until the eye was clear of debris.
Then they inserted a flat, wide probe that had the new synthetic lens. It looked like a vacuum cleaner wand that's wide and thin.
The synthetic lens was folded over like a tortilla shell folded into the center from both left and right.
As soon as it was pushed out of the wand, it started to unfold into a circle.
The doctor used the rounded tip probe to guide it into place and help it unfold.
It does not cover the entire eye like the organic lens did.
He said the pressure of the eye holds it in place.
When I had mine done, the doctor said he put one in that had a focal point of about an arm's reach.
It doesn't take long at all. Some say eight to fifteen minutes.
My first one didn't take long but the second one seemed to drag and I was impatient/anxious for it to be over with. Don't know what made me feel that way.
They numb your eye with some drops and liquids.
One of them burns. You're not too keen on that one.
My anesthesiologist said that they gave me about two beers worth of anesthetic but I couldn't even notice it.
The patient cannot see diddly.
You cannot feel what they are doing and all you see are some bright lights looking down at you.
The place Patty went to did about 33 or 35 cataract surgeries that day. Big bucks for the partners that day.
Plus she had a laser procedure to help fix/lessen astigmatism. That did not take very long either.
She said it gave a little burn feeling in the eye.
It also gave a $1,400 burn feeling in the wallet.
The 'even better' laser procedure would have cost $3,900.
The laser was optional so Medicare does not cover it, of course.
She can tell that her vision is better and the astigmatism is better for the right eye.
Might or might not have the left eye done in six months or so.
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We get touchy and protective about someone fiddling with our eyes.
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Just plain FANTASTIC, AWESOME, INCREDIBLE that they can do such things and it's now routine.

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patty's second cataract surgery

done on thursday may 08.

came out fine, maybe even better than the first.

she noticed a tremendous improvement the next day.

i watched this one also.
the doctor had to work a little harder on this one.
the cataract was a bit more developed and tougher to break up than the first.

i learned a new tidbit of knowledge about the operation.
the doctor is barefoot.
he sits on a special stool which does not look so special,,, after all, a stool is just something to sit on, right?

the stool has foot pedals. At least two pedals for water and suction and probably a third pedal to push the new, synthetic lens out of the wand into the eye.

he has to use his hands/fingers to control/position the various probes into and around the eye under the outer layer.
if he had to use his thumb or other fingers to control water and suction, the action of the finger movement would also cause the probe to wander.
NOT a place you want a lot of uncontrolled movement!

she says it still came out great and is now only wearing glasses for up-close reading.
she was seeing 20/20 out of the left eye the day after surgery.

this time, she did not have the laser surgery for the astigmatism.
that would have been out of pocket, just like last time.

when she declined the extra laser surgery, the heavy guns sales pressure kicked in.
not quite called foolish but leaning towards it and 'you really should have it done'.

will get an eye exam in about a month for a real prescription but doesn't look like it will be very strong.

coming out great so far!
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(added later) ---- it seems that the second eye was a little bit tougher because she did not
have the laser treatment done.

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Cataract surgery several years later.

Sometimes the artificial lens will develop a haze over it after several years.
It does not happen to everyone.
You can see but not focus.
My right eye had that happen about 5 years afterwards.
The left eye seemed fine. Key word; seemed.
The optometrist could see the haze and after a while it got bad enough that she recommended laser treatment.
The laser treatment is done by a doctor specially trained in the laser.
They dilate your eyes and really, really examine them.
They put a lens about ¾ of an inch deep on your eyeball with some sticky goop.
They hold your head very still and you look into the laser machine.
You see four quadrants of red.
Then she zaps your eye a multitude of times and she keeps zapping until she feels it is done.
She is looking at your eyeball all the while.
Sometimes you feel the zap and sometimes not.
It feels a little bit like a static electric shock when you grab the doorknob.
Not painful but noticeable.
My right eye took 39 zaps. I did not feel any of them.
The left eye took 50 zaps and I felt most of them.
Driving home each time, the eyesight was worthless in that eye.
You might see some floaters for a while.

The left eye seemed fine. Or so I thought.
The optometrist and the laser doctor both were amazed that I was claiming how well the left eye worked. It was not fine. It was just much less bad. It focused pretty well but was deteriorating at a slower rate.
It took about 8 to 10 hours for the right eye to work ok and I could easily tell the improvement.
The right eye was so much better that I could then tell that the left was not up to snuff.

Two weeks later, she did the left eye.
There is no set number of zaps.
It is her judgement call as she is doing it.
They thought the left eye would take less hits because it was not as bad as the right.
Actually it took more hits than the right and it did not take as long afterwards to clear up the vision. Next day – left eye good but not as good as the right yet.

Patty’s first eye hazed over in fewer years than mine. It took 55 hits with the laser.
Her other eye is not so bad so it might be six months or more before they do laser on it.

Supposedly it does not happen again.

It is so gradual that it gets pretty bad before you really notice it.

You are doing one eye at a time, right? Odds are in your favor and if you don't do the surgery hlthe2b Nov 2022 #1
I think OP's point is that they're already blind in the other eye... regnaD kciN Nov 2022 #7
Yes. and 99% or greater are not bad odds. hlthe2b Nov 2022 #13
... SheltieLover Nov 2022 #2
There's a 99% chance you won't. You should like those odds. LakeArenal Nov 2022 #3
VA did both of my eyes a few years ago. Went well... Wounded Bear Nov 2022 #4
I had it done back in 2013... regnaD kciN Nov 2022 #6
Had mine a year ago. It was fine. onecaliberal Nov 2022 #5
I had one go south but I went to IN Eye Institute in Indy and they fixed it. mobeau69 Nov 2022 #8
When I had mine done iwillalwayswonderwhy Nov 2022 #9
I understand why Rebl2 Nov 2022 #10
I am blind in one eye because of nerve damage to the eye, caused during birth. If surgery doesn't 3Hotdogs Nov 2022 #25
. 3Hotdogs Nov 2022 #26
I have had both eyes done. No problem and much better eyesight. overleft Nov 2022 #11
I have a cataract in my right eye. I have an appointment with the U of Iowa Hospital rsdsharp Nov 2022 #12
Of course you're scared! I would be too! Fingers crossed it'll all be OK for you CousinIT Nov 2022 #14
I have had five joint replacement surgeries since 2017. The other was ten years before. brewens Nov 2022 #15
Wow. The one thing I need is an ankle replacement but on THAT particular joint (only) hlthe2b Nov 2022 #17
My surgeon is in Moscow, and I could get you a referral if you like. Top notch. Dr. Kym. brewens Nov 2022 #21
Hah! hlthe2b Nov 2022 #22
My grandmother lost an eye to whooping cough. When she got old and applegrove Nov 2022 #16
I have had surgery in my left eye twice. Delmette2.0 Nov 2022 #18
A Friend in his 80's Was Blind in One Eye - had Cataract Surgery This Week people Nov 2022 #19
I had mine done almost 2 years ago. Went like a breeze yellowdogintexas Nov 2022 #20
cataracts parts 1 and 2 keithbvadu2 Nov 2022 #23
I got my Rebl2 Nov 2022 #28
I know 3 people who had it done and it went great. BigmanPigman Nov 2022 #24
The only other alternative is to go blind SlimJimmy Nov 2022 #27
How exactly does that literature define the 1% chance the surgery will go south? PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2022 #29
It doesn't. It is a fold-over flier in the office shelf, along with other stuff to pick up and take 3Hotdogs Nov 2022 #30
You need to read those pages carefully. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2022 #31
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