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steve2470

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22. explanation

Sat Jul 18, 2015, 01:20 AM

Jul 2015

1- I voted for Bernie, because what he says resonates with me. However, I would like him to directly and forcefully address the chronic racial issues this country has with solid proposals. There's no reason for him not to, whatsoever. If he already has, please give me a link, thanks.

2- If Secretary Clinton gets the nomination, that's fine with me. I don't think Bernie stands a chance to be honest. I won't campaign against her or speak against her on DU or other places. I know my opinion of Senator Sanders' chances puts me at odds with most of DU, and I'm ok with that.

3- ANY Democratic candidate MUST address the racial issues. Merely talking about "economic justice" is NOT good enough, because social justice in all its forms is needed at the same time.

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Number23's poll of polls!! Vote here now!!! [View all] bravenak Jul 2015 OP

Ummm...before some folks get all reared up and roused, I specifically asked this about REGULAR AA Number23 Jul 2015 #1

Sorry. I voted, but I am not a regular in this group. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #76

You know qwlauren35 Jul 2015 #80

That explanation didn't work for me in the Bernie Group ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #86

Some people don't realize--even now--that the poll results are transparent! MADem Aug 2015 #92

smh! MADem Jan 2016 #137

The thing is, when this was first posted six months ago, we got the "oh, I didn't see it was the AA Number23 Jan 2016 #138

Hey NEW FOLKS VOTING IN THIS POLL, Clinton is still wiping the floor with Sanders here Number23 Mar 2016 #182

Bravenak, can we get an undecided or other option too? Or is that too many for the poll?? Number23 Jul 2015 #2

Okay. I'll add regular posters and an undecided option. bravenak Jul 2015 #3

5 votes in and I already see about three folks voting that have never posted here before Number23 Jul 2015 #4

I'll bold it and cap it. bravenak Jul 2015 #5

Oh they are heaven05 Jul 2015 #6

You got that right. And I guess we aren't supposed to notice them Number23 Jul 2015 #11

So what YOU want means nothing to them, THEY will vote in YOUR poll to lopside it randys1 Jul 2015 #64

Yep. And what's sad is that it didn't even make a difference in the end. Not in the way they were Number23 Jul 2015 #69

I have always been an Obama gal. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #7

Honestly, I am not feeling very enthusiastic for the next election. bravenak Jul 2015 #8

Hon. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #9

Me too. I'm proud as hell. There ain't no lame on his duck. bravenak Jul 2015 #10

What a team those two have been. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #13

I would love to see that. The press secretary doing pull up in the hall. bravenak Jul 2015 #15

I'd limp right along side you heaven05 Jul 2015 #28

Me, three. He's a great President and a great man. n/t pnwmom Jan 2016 #119

I co-sign. I'm not all that enthusiastic (though that may change) and I sure as HELL don't want to Number23 Jul 2015 #12

I will be crying with you from here. bravenak Jul 2015 #14

I can see you writing a great thesis lovemydog Jul 2015 #16

I hope I get that done before I die. Hopefully I have some years left. bravenak Jul 2015 #17

I love history and reading about presidents. lovemydog Jul 2015 #19

"I have never felt comfortable with a president like I feel with him" JI7 Jul 2015 #21

There has likely never been as generous and inclusive POTUS as Obama. freshwest Jul 2015 #61

Me too. lovemydog Jul 2015 #18

Can't agree. qwlauren35 Jul 2015 #81

this is how i feel , i wish i could vote for Obama gain JI7 Jul 2015 #20

I feel strange being undecided. brer cat Jul 2015 #54

It feel like a funeral is coming. bravenak Jul 2015 #55

Wait till he is contrasted with ANYONE else...it will be stunning. randys1 Jul 2015 #65

President Obama has been the best president of my lifetime steve2470 Jul 2015 #29

explanation steve2470 Jul 2015 #22

No explanation necessary at all. As of this post, the Undecideds are in the lead Number23 Jul 2015 #23

Here's my why. lovemydog Jul 2015 #24

My choices are in that same order too. bravenak Jul 2015 #25

That's right where I am. n/t gollygee Jul 2015 #26

Hear, hear! qwlauren35 Jul 2015 #83

O'Malley JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #27

I have been sparse on anything political lately so keep that in mind rbrnmw Jul 2015 #30

I originally leaned Sanders, Jamaal510 Jul 2015 #31

This is a really interesting outcome. As of this post, the majority of minority posters in this poll Number23 Jul 2015 #32

I'm about to go back to undecided in a minute here. bravenak Jul 2015 #33

Wouldn't be perchance, because of some really unintentionally hilarious posts in GD-P at the moment? Number23 Jul 2015 #34

Have you seen that crybaby fest out there? bravenak Jul 2015 #35

Bravenak, I'm pretty sure everyone in this forum tried to warn you in some way or the other. Number23 Jul 2015 #36

I was warned and warned and warned. Many times. I just HAD to SEE. bravenak Jul 2015 #37

Let's just get this outta the way -- 1StrongBlackMan WAS RIGHT Number23 Jul 2015 #38

That is one hell of a post. So true. bravenak Jul 2015 #39

+1000 Lilith Rising Jul 2015 #40

This Week In Blackness - O'Malley sat down with them JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #42

"But I watched some footage of Bernie reacting to BLM exercising their RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH and I Number23 Jul 2015 #43

I just took a time machine back to June 2013 JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #41

Oh girl, the person who is littering GD/P right this very second with one asinine and embarassing OP Number23 Jul 2015 #44

Let's just get this outta the way -- 1StrongBlackMan WAS RIGHT DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #46

Bravenak, that link tried to put some virus or malware on my computer. Maybe you better delete it. pnwmom Aug 2015 #100

That is so weird. bravenak Aug 2015 #101

Undecided in your community at this stage is a HUGE victory for Bernie, when you think about it. randys1 Jul 2015 #66

Before yesterday, I would have agreed with you. Number23 Jul 2015 #70

Yeah, I see that too. I dont get why he is almost fighting against BLM meme. randys1 Jul 2015 #71

Let's not forget how one group treated and continues to treat my brother, 1SBM DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #45

I am sick about the netroots folks rbrnmw Jul 2015 #47

I know. bravenak Jul 2015 #48

I've changed to undecided. lovemydog Jul 2015 #49

Me too. bravenak Jul 2015 #50

We changed from voting for Sanders lovemydog Jul 2015 #56

I feel like they tried with all of their might to make me feel unwelcome. bravenak Jul 2015 #59

I hear you. lovemydog Jul 2015 #60

Having read through this thread, may I just say that I am not surprised at all? I'll be honest, Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #51

Yep. Yep yep yep!! bravenak Jul 2015 #52

+1 lovemydog Jul 2015 #57

I think that continuity is best served with Clinton following Obama into the WH. MADem Aug 2015 #93

I couldn't agree more. "Continuity" is of major concern to so many in this community. My fear, Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #96

And on the international front ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #98

+1 Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #102

I mentioned this a while back, saying "wrong words lead to wars" ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #103

Yes, I can believe it. Temperament is important. Crabby & cranky are not virtues I look for.... Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #104

I can speak well on the "international" front Number23 Aug 2015 #109

I didn't answer in the poll gwheezie Jul 2015 #53

I too want to see more lovemydog Jul 2015 #58

Wheezie, I noted in the first post that I am really interested in who all of us with melanin are Number23 Jul 2015 #62

You can see who voted and I think there are a lot of Randos that voted for Bernie.. surprise! Cha Jul 2015 #63

as of 1:56 pm on 7/20 JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #68

Mahalo Gen~ Cha Jul 2015 #72

What does it say about folks who willfully ignore Numbers request that only regulars vote? DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #77

ExultantDemocracy appears to have changed his vote altogether. And he has identified himself Number23 Jul 2015 #85

Many DU readers (AA Group posters or not) will quickly respond to such a poll w/o reading the rules kenn3d Aug 2015 #106

I haven't been "named and shamed" or called out gollygee Aug 2015 #107

Cut the crap. Number23 Aug 2015 #108

I no longer see Exultant Democracy's or gollygee's vote for Sanders in this poll Number23 Jan 2016 #116

Just give her time. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #73

I get excited - just seeing her pic! JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #75

Love her! And like the poster said, I hope we're grooming many more. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #78

I just want to be the mayor some day! JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #79

Whosoever will beat the Republicans in November. MrScorpio Jul 2015 #67

i'm waiting to see what Biden does JI7 Jul 2015 #74

"they are taking out their anger on minorities for her being ahead." Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #84

moving right along heaven05 Jul 2015 #82

I honest to god don't remember seeing this before marym625 Jul 2015 #87

Lol!! bravenak Jul 2015 #88

Girl marym625 Jul 2015 #89

Kick. This poll is hilarious Number23 Aug 2015 #90

Imagine being passengers in their car. lovemydog Aug 2015 #91

"'We're down 50-19. Woo hoo. They're terrified of us!' I can think of few things that Number23 Aug 2015 #97

Yep ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #99

Evidently it's not just here BainsBane Aug 2015 #114

Maybe she should have said, "Yes! Jack Black was great in that, wasn't he?" pnwmom Jan 2016 #125

Some folks STILL just don't realize that you can SEE how they voted! nt MADem Aug 2015 #94

There are still ONLY five votes for Bernie JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #95

Yeah I just checked out the names -- it is pretty funny ismnotwasm Jan 2016 #147

Some ppl are either incapable of following directions or giftedgirl77 Aug 2015 #105

As JAG has noted, right now Sanders has only five **LEGITIMATE** votes in this poll Number23 Aug 2015 #110

I'm waiting to see how Bernie does with the PoC community steve2470 Aug 2015 #111

I dont understand what Bernie is waiting for, there needs to be a loud, huge AllFieldsRequired Aug 2015 #112

He must be waiting for me. bravenak Aug 2015 #113

Wait -- touring with Cornel West isn't enough? pnwmom Jan 2016 #120

Thought it might be time to give this a bit of a kick! Got 3 LEGITIMATE Sanders votes Number23 Jan 2016 #115

I'm still the lone Martin supporter JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #117

It says you haven't voted yet in the poll! Number23 Jan 2016 #121

No, you're not. PragmaticLiberal Jan 2016 #146

You're not the lone O'Malley supporter ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #149

I wasn't certain till the debates. She had such a command of pnwmom Jan 2016 #118

I'm still undecided but I think I'm leaning towards Hillary because she seems to have got this Number23 Jan 2016 #122

I think it's the Southern primaries that will tell us where this is all going. That's where pnwmom Jan 2016 #123

This message was self-deleted by its author M Kitt Jan 2016 #124

Not for me JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #129

i like Clinton and Sanders together. betsuni Jan 2016 #126

6 votes for Clinton, 4 for Sanders, 0 O'Malley (JAG!) and about 14 Undecided as of this post Number23 Jan 2016 #127

Nate is my guide, when he tells me which one has a better chance of beating randys1 Jan 2016 #128

As of right now, there are more undecided minority voters than anything else and Clinton comes 2nd Number23 Jan 2016 #133

Clinton is 2nd to Bernie with minority voters? That would be news to me, not that I doubt you randys1 Jan 2016 #134

No, I just mean in this poll! Clinton is second to Undecided among the minority voters that have Number23 Jan 2016 #135

oh LOL this shit can drive you crazy randys1 Jan 2016 #136

It's nice to have this poll as evidence the next time someone comes leaping into this group betsuni Jan 2016 #139

I am tickled by the number of people who have decided to vote who are not only not regulars in this Number23 Jan 2016 #140

Clinton because math. wildeyed Jan 2016 #130

Hillary Clinton Coolest Ranger Jan 2016 #131

I am fascinated with the prospect that Trump could actually win the WH, that is randys1 Jan 2016 #132

my problem is clinton and foreign policy JI7 Jan 2016 #141

Off to check this out JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #142

some clarification on this JI7 Jan 2016 #143

Do you think you'll be voting for Sanders in this poll? You will be only the second poster of color Number23 Jan 2016 #144

i will probably end up voting Sanders JI7 Jan 2016 #145

I just printed out my absentee ballot for the primary in my home state Number23 Jan 2016 #148

I haven't watched all of the last debate, but from what I saw O'Malley was terrific! betsuni Jan 2016 #150

I am not a POC, BlueMTexpat Jan 2016 #151

I'm AA and have decided to support HRC in the primary underthematrix Jan 2016 #152

Hillary is running away with this here. 19 votes for her, 7 that are posters of color Number23 Jan 2016 #153

O'Malley looks to have the strongest showing with posters of color here! All four of his votes are Number23 Jan 2016 #154

He gets the human being aspect JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #155

Well he has an amazing advocate in you. The rare person here who can actually advocate for their Number23 Jan 2016 #156

I updated my vote JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #157

How interesting. qwlauren35 Feb 2016 #158

I am bouncing back a forth between voting and not voting ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #159

Kick! Number23 Mar 2016 #160

Guys do we SERIOUSLY have this many undecided this late in the game???! Number23 Mar 2016 #161

I'm barely decided bravenak Mar 2016 #162

I voted for Hillary in my primary. Enthusiastically? Not really but she got my vote nonetheless Number23 Mar 2016 #163

I know what you mean. bravenak Mar 2016 #164

Have you responded to these irate people screaming for your head because of something you said Number23 Mar 2016 #165

I have said something and said that I had read the thread and let myself get mad and say something d bravenak Mar 2016 #166

Why would you talk to that person? Who cares what he thinks about anything? Number23 Mar 2016 #167

I only talked to him because he was hurt and I felt horrible about it. bravenak Mar 2016 #168

Oh, I see. I find that individual one of the most ridiculous people here and I'm still sad that he Number23 Mar 2016 #170

LOL Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #173

I am sorry number23 bravenak Mar 2016 #174

Well... Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #171

It is time bravenak Mar 2016 #175

Yep. Kev, everyone in this forum understands the anger. I sure as HELL understand it Number23 Mar 2016 #176

This comment jumped WAY out to me Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #191

If I actually said what they wanted to you with you "virtually" Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #169

You are right, it would be hidden bravenak Mar 2016 #172

If you've apologized, I really don't see what else you could do Number23 Mar 2016 #177

I really just want them to leave you guys alone bravenak Mar 2016 #178

Please don't take these people's psychotic behavior on yourself Number23 Mar 2016 #179

I already posted it. It is not to them, it is to you guys. bravenak Mar 2016 #181

'This is not the creme de la creme that we're talking about.' lovemydog Mar 2016 #188

LOL Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #180

Please don't be too tough on yourself. lovemydog Mar 2016 #183

I just hate them bothering everybody else bravenak Mar 2016 #184

Oh, they'd find other crap to hate on lovemydog Mar 2016 #185

You are so right bravenak Mar 2016 #186

lovemydog is right brer cat Mar 2016 #190

I see a couple of Clinton supporters in the undecided category BainsBane Mar 2016 #187

Me...raises hand. brer cat Mar 2016 #189

It was I who killed the old pawnbroker and her sister Lizaveta ... I confess. betsuni Mar 2016 #193

Haha! lovemydog Mar 2016 #194

"Standing with Hillary for Spite" Number23 Mar 2016 #199

I wasn't able to do that.... Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #235

Everyone in this forum loves M0rpheus and Blue_Tires and that is never going to change Number23 Mar 2016 #241

It's precious to see the latest swarm of Sanders supporters coming in here voting Number23 Mar 2016 #198

And it goes without saying that we respect lovemydog Mar 2016 #206

I was one...I'm voting for her in the NY primary though I wasn't going to vote. Quayblue Mar 2016 #229

I'm no longer undecided. lovemydog Mar 2016 #192

An excellent endorsement from a truly magnificent person Number23 Mar 2016 #196

Thanks lovemydog Mar 2016 #239

Today is the Arizona President Preference election for the state of Arizona ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #195

how is Dem turnout in AZ ? Any numbers yet ? nt steve2470 Mar 2016 #197

I've been really busy and haven't been paying attention ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #200

The media is reporting 1 1/2 waiting lines in Phoenix ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #207

ah very good, thanks! nt steve2470 Mar 2016 #208

Tucson's AZ Public Media reported that "voting was going smoothly" ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #212

Understood. lovemydog Mar 2016 #211

Ummm, I think I would just rather not admit it. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #223

Some people just can't follow directions to save their lives..... giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #201

Everything is about them even if it is not bravenak Mar 2016 #202

Lol, ain't that the truth. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #203

I hope you alerted on that juror. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #204

No, they voted leave. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #213

I have people now harassing my family members and leaving nasty comments on my twitter bravenak Mar 2016 #205

........... steve2470 Mar 2016 #209

Hey!! I'm not. bravenak Mar 2016 #210

B, something similar happened lovemydog Mar 2016 #214

I'm pretty much done now that they have decided to target my family with their racist little bravenak Mar 2016 #218

Straight outta lovemydog Mar 2016 #222

Real shit bravenak Mar 2016 #224

contacting actual OGs smmfh Quayblue Mar 2016 #230

Done lost they damn minds bravenak Mar 2016 #231

!!!!!!! Quayblue Mar 2016 #232

I've resolved myslef not to let these hateful little ppl get the best of me. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #215

You're smart and lovemydog Mar 2016 #216

Aww thanks. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #217

They can't hurt me but they have some angry people rekated to me who are not interested in bravenak Mar 2016 #219

Angry little cowards. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #220

I will. You are so right bravenak Mar 2016 #221

The nice thing, when people from here swarm you on Twitter wildeyed Mar 2016 #233

I have everything on private bravenak Mar 2016 #234

What the hell???!!!! Number23 Mar 2016 #242

They seem to think it's perfectly normal bravenak Mar 2016 #243

This is their way of not only making spectacular asses out of themselves but to also "remind" Number23 Mar 2016 #240

& the problem is they've convinced themselves that Sanders giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #244

And worse, many of them are so angry about Hillary that they will risk Trump or Cruz Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #247

Some of those people should be ashamed to even try & pretend giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #225

They extra voters? bravenak Mar 2016 #226

Welcome back!!! RepubliCON-Watch Mar 2016 #227

Thank you!! bravenak Mar 2016 #228

Dam.didn't even know that you had a Twitter Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #236

They better hope that those contacted do not find them. bravenak Mar 2016 #237

I know...I know... Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #238

My God JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #245

They have gone to extreme lengths to show out bravenak Mar 2016 #246

Kicking~ sheshe2 Apr 2016 #248