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elljay

(1,178 posts)
7. Because "White people" is not an ethnic group
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 01:17 PM
Jun 2016

whereas, at least in the U.S. "black people" is. There is not necessarily any cultural similarity, other than to some degree skin color, among various Caucasian groups. It has become convenient, based on America's racially-charged culture, and certainly from the perspective of African Americans, to differentiate people by skin color but it really is an imperfect classification. Yes, it is clear that people with white skin are treated differently in society than people with black skin, but the fact that I share not getting arrested while walking down the street with a white farmer living in small town Arkansas doesn't in any way create some mutual identity. You need to look at ethnicity (people from Scandinavian backgrounds actually do have quite a different culture than Bulgarians), religion (pentecostal vs Russian Orthodox) environment (urban vs. rural), and definitely class and education. You will find much more cohesion if you look within the individual ethnic groups. For example, my Jewish people do stand together, have cultural cohesion, have a collective identity rooted in our continuing shared oppression by Christians and Muslims, even between the liberal secular/less-religious Jews who predominantly vote Democratic and and minority of religious Jews who tend to be much more socially conservative and therefore trend Republican. And, we happen to be multiracial and multiethnic at the same time. Southern White Protestants, who are the Republican base share common beliefs and culture and identify as a community. Southern Protestants and Jews lumped together as a single group - no way.

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Maybe to an extent, but having first hand experience, I'd say income has more of an effect tonyt53 Jun 2016 #1
So your family wasn't family JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #4
Say what? Where'd you get that. We had a support network of people just like us - poor. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #5
See my response down below JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #6
oh yes swhisper1 Jun 2016 #2
Yep - I think I posted about this previously JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #3
Because "White people" is not an ethnic group elljay Jun 2016 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #8
When the economy goes sour, black people feel it more and therefore there may be a collective Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2016 #9
Yep. I do. And for alot of the reasons that you already noted. Number23 Jun 2016 #10
this is true of all minority groups JI7 Jun 2016 #11
All I can say is when white people get into a room, or neighborhood, or county, rusty quoin Jun 2016 #12
i think it's different life experience but white is seen as the norm. not just conservatives JI7 Jun 2016 #13
Yeah, that's the thing. rusty quoin Jun 2016 #15
Growing up in NYC it's always been the opposite. I remember visiting NJ or Wisconsin and feeling bettyellen Jun 2016 #16
White Privilege rusty quoin Jun 2016 #18
You nailed it. I think it'll be strange seeing sexism's big resurgence with HRC bettyellen Jun 2016 #21
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2016 #20
In many black families, getting into the middle class is recent history ... kwassa Jun 2016 #14
Excellent post Kwassa n/t JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #19
Historically until very recently Chitown Kev Jun 2016 #17
Absolutely ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #22
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