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Mc Mike

(9,173 posts)
65. I don't know what his motivations could be.
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 10:42 AM
Aug 2016

I'm signed up to be a election protection poll watcher again, here. I've been a poll worker, as a majority inspector of elections in my area quite a few times before, too, so I got to saw things from the inside.

I saw a man from the ACLU being interviewed on some national tv show(Rachel or Joy, can't remember which, sorry), and he said that every voter has a right to a provisional ballot, at minimum. But that option should be a last ditch one, because they threw a ton of those out in past elections. A determined voter can and should follow that provisional ballot up all the way, doggedly, if they get denied a regular ballot.

The League of Women Voters Vote411 site would be a good resource for anyone who is worried they might not be on the eligible voter list, and the 866 OUR VOTE (PFAW, NAACP, etc.) and the 866 MY VOTE 1 (Urban League) numbers should be given to any voter who might need protection, beforehand. In my opinion, it is a key get out the vote mobilizing tool. If you tell people their legal right to vote might be stolen or denied, it makes them more determined to vote. And the more people who are talking about voter protection and voter's rights, the more the bad guys are going to be afraid to steal it. They'll replay in their heads past footage they remember of crooked repug elections officials being perp walked.

Big turnout is key to keeping them from stealing it, but big turnout won't help if there are hours long lines to vote. Big turnouts are only good if the turned out people actually get to vote. Campaigning by giving people those numbers is a way to get them energized, mobilized, and prepared to do something about republican trump rove sproul skulduggery. I'd inform people of Vote411, OURVOTE and MYVOTE1 and tell them to contact all 3 if they have problems.

The Nation magazine was engaged in some voter protection efforts with Color of Change in '12, they just sent me an online article via e-mail on tRump's poll 'watcher' threats:
https://www.thenation.com/article/donald-trump-is-encouraging-intimidation-and-racial-profiling-at-the-polls/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=New%20Campaign&utm_term=daily

There are 2 good links in the article, one is about the '82 Consent Decree, forbidding any republican party officials, organizations, or agents or servants of the same, from engaging in any kind of ballot security or ballot integrity efforts, without prior court consent, especially in any areas where racial or ethnic makeup could be considered a reason for the activities. That's nationwide. The '82 consent decree:
http://electionlawblog.org/?p=85289

The other one is PA specific, because dRump said that he was going to send the police in to watch the polling places in those (dog whistle) areas where people are voting too many times. He wants to send racist rightwing trump supporting cops to watch Black and Hispanic polls. PA Title 25, Sec 3047 specifically states that the uniformed or plainclothes police aren't allowed within 100' of a polling place, unless voting, or called to preserve the peace. In no event are they to prevent any elector from voting or influence or overawe them or restrain their freedom of choice. PA election law against polling place 'policing':
https://govt.westlaw.com/pac/Document/NB1EA7150D0A011DEA63ECFA39685C638?viewType=FullText&originationContext=documenttoc&transitionType=CategoryPageItem&contextData=(sc.Default)

I had a young Black guy at one of my east city polls in 2012 come in and say that the machines were rigged, he had just got an election day phone text info blast that said 'Don't vote straight ticket, only vote for the President, if you vote straight ticket, the vote for the President won't show up.' I told him that in past elections, voting straight ticket HAD in some cases caused an inexplicable absence of the top Democratic candidate, and a bunch of unfunded downballot races wound up having a higher vote total than the well-funded top ticket Dem did. But the way around it was to vote each race one at a time, choosing the candidate from whichever party you like one at a time. It doesn't take a lot of time, even if you have a 5-6 page ballot like we have sometimes. And we have a review screen at the end before you push the final 'vote' button. I reported the sudden (Rove induced, in my opinion) rumor to the higher ups in election protection. The young guy seemed honest and outraged, but the rumor was very sudden and just would have depressed turnout for down ballot races, that the Prez wanted to go Democratic, too.

They're going to try to cheat, suppress, and steal, however they can, because their candidate is such a nauseatingly unappealing and nazified pile of droppings. So we have to be on our toes, like usual.

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I'm no longer a practicing attorney piechartking Aug 2016 #1
I wish you could latch onto a voting rights project too. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #12
It's not all that surprising when you realize deep down they are dedicated fascists Major Nikon Aug 2016 #19
Check with your state licensing authority, marybourg Aug 2016 #27
Thanks for the tip! piechartking Aug 2016 #28
Pie the best part of Retirement Protalker Aug 2016 #30
Maybe we should look back to the end of WW2 and remember asjr Aug 2016 #33
Organize agroup of people who are and go after them. Coyotl Aug 2016 #39
They've been doing it for years. elleng Aug 2016 #51
Here is the thing - you should not have to do this Cosmocat Aug 2016 #57
2012 - PA was a nail biter JustAnotherGen Aug 2016 #60
id wish you would sue as a concerned citizen allan01 Aug 2016 #61
It's at the point where every registered voter should confirm active status to vote no_hypocrisy Aug 2016 #2
Great point, nh! sheshe2 Aug 2016 #13
True that, but this is happening in areas with concentrated liberal voters. Focus there first. Coyotl Aug 2016 #38
"According to our analysis, the Crosscheck list disproportionately threatens Hortensis Aug 2016 #56
This is totally freaking me out! pandora nm Aug 2016 #3
I'm freaked out, too. Granny M Aug 2016 #14
I wish I knew why they are so silent LiberalLovinLug Aug 2016 #17
Part of me thinks awoke_in_2003 Aug 2016 #18
In on it and don't give a damn..Money talks SammyWinstonJack Aug 2016 #24
there have been Dems fighting this for years, it just does not make the news enough: bettyellen Aug 2016 #64
Greg was on Joy this AM - DURHAM D Aug 2016 #4
Thanks, sheshe2 Aug 2016 #5
Thanks! Here is a direct link to the video pandora nm Aug 2016 #8
Here is the youtube version Gothmog Aug 2016 #45
That's the segment that has folks mouth open... This is some sick shit and real uponit7771 Aug 2016 #32
"Republicans don't want to govern, they want to rule." ~Molly Ivins CrispyQ Aug 2016 #6
Molly had it right! sheshe2 Aug 2016 #7
Here is a direct link to Rolling Stone's article BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #9
Thanks, BRDS~ sheshe2 Aug 2016 #10
What I Feel Towards Republicans Is Way Beyond Hate Yallow Aug 2016 #11
Like he said in the interview, Granny M Aug 2016 #15
We have had lots of elections that do not pass the smell test Botany Aug 2016 #16
Saxby Chambliss over Max Cleland in Georgia in 2002 DFW Aug 2016 #42
Donald Seigelman Alabama 2002 Botany Aug 2016 #62
why aren't democrats doing the same thing? ArcticFox Aug 2016 #20
Good question but nope JustAnotherGen Aug 2016 #22
I read about this the other day. ananda Aug 2016 #21
The Left needs an Assange JustAnotherGen Aug 2016 #23
Know anyone up to the job? sheshe2 Aug 2016 #25
Some people say (sheshe post afam group) JustAnotherGen Aug 2016 #58
You can't see me in the group? sheshe2 Aug 2016 #69
I figured out a way to see latest posts JustAnotherGen Aug 2016 #70
Glitch in the system. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #71
We just watched "Selma" yesterday evening caballojm Aug 2016 #26
One significant problem is no national law regulates voting practices: each state does its own thing Ford_Prefect Aug 2016 #29
Kick this all over the country Hekate Aug 2016 #31
You have to push aside the multitude kacekwl Aug 2016 #34
secret? the gnewz media ate their BS votER fraud. ignoring CHEATING by the GOP to stay in power. pansypoo53219 Aug 2016 #35
Better pay attention...... suston96 Aug 2016 #36
Lawsuits targeting the persons doing this are needed. Lots and lots of lawsuits. Coyotl Aug 2016 #37
+1, this shit is the true anti American actions... In close races it tips the scales uponit7771 Aug 2016 #40
Spot on, Coyotl. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #41
Well their methodology sounds interesting. DirkGently Aug 2016 #43
I found the Crosscheck "Memorandum of Understanding" (MOU) from 2013 pandora nm Aug 2016 #44
Thanks, pandora. I see the repugs are trying to push it here in PA. Mc Mike Aug 2016 #46
It's my understanding that PA has a Democratic SoS pandora nm Aug 2016 #49
I don't know what his motivations could be. Mc Mike Aug 2016 #65
Add Bigtree's info from Salon article, about PA P.L. 333, Act No. 320 Mc Mike Oct 2016 #75
That is shocking. Granny M Aug 2016 #55
We have to protect every vote. It's the American way. rec, nt. Mc Mike Aug 2016 #47
What I don't understand is why the Dems don't fight back like they could & should and a lot of this EV_Ares Aug 2016 #48
"All original data will be securely destroyed upon completion of the project" Ligyron Aug 2016 #50
That's where the Justice Department should be looking JustAnotherGen Aug 2016 #59
Maybe Trump has the rigged election right, he can say the big percentage of POC vote Thinkingabout Aug 2016 #52
I'm waiting for Trump to tell his supporters to make their women stay home. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2016 #53
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #54
It would only take Democrats trying to do this to everyone named Smith, Jones, Williams, & Johnson ProfessorPlum Aug 2016 #63
WTH!? sheshe2 Aug 2016 #67
I guess I should qualify this ProfessorPlum Aug 2016 #68
Thank you for clarfying. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #73
I agree with him sheshe JustAnotherGen Aug 2016 #72
I just saw the clarification. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #74
What is the purpose of government lsewpershad Aug 2016 #66
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