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Recursion

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Sat Apr 8, 2017, 04:37 PM Apr 2017

Gabriel Valdez has something to say [View all]

In the primary, voters of color chose Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders nearly to the extent that we choose Democrats over Republicans. 78% of Black voters chose Clinton in the primary. 65% of Latinx voters chose Clinton in the primary. Sanders narrowly won one demographic - white men.

It was the biggest split between white and nonwhite voters in Democratic primary history. Yet no one bothers to ask why. To the Left Flank Progressives, it's easier to pose that people of color don't know what's good for us, like we're Stone Age regressive level voters. We were told we just didn't understand politics well enough to know what was good for us. That was the Progressive attitude of alliance to us.

People didn't consider that we were voting for a candidate by record margins in a Democratic primary, they just dismissed it. Thinking we were too stupid to understand politics was easier than thinking we might have priorities and needs that the Progressive revolution didn't know because they hadn't lived a day in our shoes.
The Left Flank wonders why we vote differently from them while at the same time exhibiting the complete refusal to listen to us and what we need that makes us vote differently from them.

And then when we did decide differently from them, when people of color got our choice of candidate in over the choice of white voters for the first time in history, we were posed as stealing it in the places where Latinxs decide elections - Arizona, Nevada, California. Never mind that Sanders' solution in Arizona after everyone stopped paying attention was to join the lawsuit for more polling places that Clinton had already been part of for a year beforehand.

And that narrative of fraudulent voting by Latinxs...who picked up on that? Sanders Progressives laid the inroad for Trump's fraudulent Latinx voters narrative. Sanders Progressives made that path toward eroding my civil rights far easier for Trump to sell. Sanders Progressives championed the exact same thing when Sanders did it that they turned their noses up at when Trump did it. The Sanders wing's consistency of alliance has only amounted to what's good for the Sanders wing, and not for those they'd pretend to be allied to. The Sanders wing damaged us, co-opted a civil rights fight in Arizona to dress in the costume of victimization, and made no attempt to repair the damage they caused after Latinxs were done serving our purpose.

White men didn't get their way, so they said it was stolen. They pointed to people of color as a make-believe culprit because we had exercised our influence. They pretended at the victimization that they had caused others. There is far more similarity from a core element of Sanders supporters to a core element of Trump supporters than people would like to admit.

But whatever, Clinton won, our choice won, and when we asked for the alliance that people of color have been asked to give the choice of white voters for decades on end, the response was for white progressives to think it was beneath them. The thing we had been asked to do in order to hold a coalition together for generations was beneath white Progressives. We've been asked to vote for our second, third, fourth choices so that we can hold the liberal alliance together. The minute we asked white Progressives to do the same thing they've asked us to do, they were insulted. They wouldn't have it. They wouldn't lower themselves to help us the same way they've asked us to do. The gall of us to even ask.

And now our communities are set to be the martyrs the Left Flank will rally behind for a justice they'll pretend they didn't violate in the first place.

They rail against the core of the Democratic Party being "Establishment" when the core that's remaining of the Democratic Party is the only governmental power left that Latinxs, Blacks, and women have in government.
Some ally, to think they earn the right to be trusted to fix anything after breaking all our shit, to think they're the hero to save us after shoving us into the line of fire. That's not our damn savior. That's not anyone we trust. That's not any new revolution - it's the same resistance among so-called allies to an ages-old revolution that we've always faced, ignoring us and costing us dearly and then asking why we don't defer to them or pay respect.
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Come on. Bernie and Hillary are on the same team. sharedvalues Apr 2017 #1
You have that wrong. murielm99 Apr 2017 #2
Because the Democratic team needs to dream bigger sharedvalues Apr 2017 #3
There is nothing constructive about name calling. murielm99 Apr 2017 #7
Maybe you should direct your comments to Bernie. brer cat Apr 2017 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author KittyWampus Apr 2017 #4
Not saying this is a Russian troll, but this is the troll strategy - unfairly malign Bernie/HRC sharedvalues Apr 2017 #6
Excuse me, "Member since February 2017"? Recursion Apr 2017 #8
So again, not a Russian troll, but the Senate transcripts discuss how RT/trolls used this strategy sharedvalues Apr 2017 #9
You seem to consistently confuse analysis and observation with "unfairly malign Bernie/HRC." LanternWaste Apr 2017 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Tanuki Apr 2017 #16
Thanks, I deleted it. KittyWampus Apr 2017 #20
This post is trying to incite division where there is none - Be Careful sharedvalues Apr 2017 #5
PREACH!!! AMEN. THANK YOU. jrthin Apr 2017 #10
Thank Mr. Valdez Recursion Apr 2017 #14
1SBM explained it about the best Warpy Apr 2017 #11
there was no push to the right other than from republicans JI7 Apr 2017 #12
HRC ran LITERALLY the most progressive campaign and platform in history Recursion Apr 2017 #13
Exactly, and if the media had allowed that message to get out Warpy Apr 2017 #17
the message was out. They voted for trump because Clinton embraced diversity JI7 Apr 2017 #21
You are wrong. Broadcast media muted her speeches while they talked over them Warpy Apr 2017 #22
but they didn't mute trump JI7 Apr 2017 #25
No, they hung on every stupid thing he said Warpy Apr 2017 #26
Yep. That was it. Recursion Apr 2017 #23
Actually, there was Warpy Apr 2017 #15
you aren't giving and specifics but talking electoral strategy. white people mostly vote JI7 Apr 2017 #19
Very good read, Recursion. brer cat Apr 2017 #24
Yeah, I know Recursion Apr 2017 #27
still patronizing and condescending..... Good choice of words lunasun Apr 2017 #28
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