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TreasonousBastard

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Mon Jul 1, 2019, 09:12 AM Jul 2019

A serious question about Kamala Harris, but alas, in a minefield... [View all]

I have noticed over the years that people one would think would get along often don't. Ireland is an obvious example, but I've been in meetings where it came out that Mexicans despised Spain, Brazilians had no use for Portugal (or Mexico) and on and on...

Now we have a candidate with Jamaican and Indian backgrounds. There may be a question about why she identifies as Black rather than Indian. But that's a different minefield.

The minefield I'm stepping into is if "African American" includes descendants of French and Spanish slaves brought into the Caribbean. I haven't seen many interactions between West Indians and US AAs, but those I have seen have not been friendly. Not at all.

I am asking if skin color is less important than culture and ancestry when looking at Kamala and the black vote. Are Blacks in the US less inclined to accept her as Black? Will taht have an effect on her support?

FWIW, it gets crazy when dealing with Hispanics. According to the US Census, they are considered white, but ask them and they are all puzzled by the question. No matter what color they are, they all say just that they are Hispanic.





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I think she has the same problem Barack had. mainstreetonce Jul 2019 #1
Barack Obama had one big thing going for him customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #6
Indian/African backgrounds are more common in Jamaica due to the British colonial influence htuttle Jul 2019 #2
The "you aren't really black" attack is a divisive tactic MaryMagdaline Jul 2019 #3
If you don't "talk black ..." EffieBlack Jul 2019 #18
Something of nothing JustAnotherGen Jul 2019 #4
This Recursion Jul 2019 #5
Is it possible customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #9
Nope JustAnotherGen Jul 2019 #10
Let's look at the experiences customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #11
Exhausting JustAnotherGen Jul 2019 #16
I have no doubt customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #22
This assumes that the "black experience" is limited to a very narrow stereotype assumed by some EffieBlack Jul 2019 #21
I'm sure there's a very wide variation customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #23
No. EffieBlack Jul 2019 #19
Guess you never lived in the northeast. AAs and West Indians get along well mostly. brush Jul 2019 #7
I will eat jerk all day. The first time I saw animosity was when I heard an agitated West Indian... TreasonousBastard Jul 2019 #14
The Tutsis and Hutus JustAnotherGen Jul 2019 #20
Great question. Back in the '80s, I worked for a company with headquarters Kind of Blue Jul 2019 #8
Beautiful! spicysista Jul 2019 #12
Awww...Thanks, spicysista! Kind of Blue Jul 2019 #15
It is most curious to me customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #24
It's most curious to me his numbers are falling Kind of Blue Jul 2019 #25
I know very little about the answer, but I like this question a lot. nt Susan Calvin Jul 2019 #13
I don't think it's innocent JustAnotherGen Jul 2019 #17
Yeah, I realized that when I started hearing it other places. nt Susan Calvin Jul 2019 #29
When you see her what is it you see? tirebiter Jul 2019 #26
I grew up with a completely racist white grandmother lapfog_1 Jul 2019 #27
Kamala is being attacked, watoos Jul 2019 #28
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