Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

hippywife

(22,767 posts)
12. ...
Sat Mar 4, 2023, 05:31 PM
Mar 2023
What if your "use" is framing it and putting it on your wall because you love it. If you are the artist what have you lost?


Control over my work. What if I don't support you or an organization you work for and don't wish to be associated?


Of course, if you sold your original and it was purchased you would have your money, but many people can't afford original art.


And if people go around reproducing it willie nillie for any reason they wish, the value of the original decreases. That's why many artists make prints available, often times in a run of limited copies. I'm totally good with people who are starving stealing food, not so much someone else's intellectual property. And it is considered theft under law.

Similarly, museums sell copies of art in their museum. And I have a key fob of the little footbridge by Monet that I bought at the Musee d'Orsay's gift shop in Paris.


And that's because either they're granted permission to reproduce, or it was no longer copyrighted.

I write about art because I love it and have had my readers comment that it made them appreciate art more and actually made them happier. That artist or those artists may then be sought out on that despicable Google. Beauty is thus proliferated in the world.


It doesn't belong to you, so you don't get to decide how and where it's used. Why not just ask your favorite rock band to play at your event for "exposure?" It's the same thing.

As I said, the bottom line is if it's not yours and is copyrighted, you don't have permission to use it until the artist or whoever controls the copyright grants permission or until it expires.

Copyright in the U.S.:
https://www.copyright.gov/what-is-copyright/


How long does copyright protection last?

The length of copyright protection depends on when a work was created. Under the current law, works created on or after January 1, 1978, have a copyright term of life of the author plus seventy years after the author’s death. If the work is a joint work, the term lasts for seventy years after the last surviving author’s death. For works made for hire and anonymous or pseudonymous works, copyright protection is 95 years from publication or 120 years from creation, whichever is shorter. Works created before 1978 have a different timeframe. Learn more about copyright duration in our Duration of Copyrights Circular.


Terms of copyright vary in different countries and are internationally enforced via the Berne Convention:

https://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/berne/


If you want to use and spread art, either get permission or use works whose copyright is expired. If you love and appreciate art and the artists, it's the legal and ethical thing to do.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

"Sneer?" Heavens, I'd hope not and I could not agree more. hlthe2b Mar 2023 #1
Oh, I don't mean you. I couldn't agree with you more about that museum. CTyankee Mar 2023 #2
Thank you. This is great news OhNo-Really Mar 2023 #3
thank you for the extensive breakdown of what is available from the National Gallery. CTyankee Mar 2023 #4
I'm over the moon happy for this Birthday Present! OhNo-Really Mar 2023 #5
I just looked at your former thread... hippywife Mar 2023 #6
Yea, one of the "filters" is "downloadable images" OhNo-Really Mar 2023 #7
The filters as described in previous comment hone In preferences OhNo-Really Mar 2023 #8
Yep. hippywife Mar 2023 #9
I agree 100% OhNo-Really Mar 2023 #10
What if your "use" is framing it and putting it on your wall because you love it. If you are the CTyankee Mar 2023 #11
... hippywife Mar 2023 #12
Some people (not me) like to take pictures on their cell phones in art museums. CTyankee Mar 2023 #13
"That's why many artists make prints available, often times in a run of limited copies." CTyankee Mar 2023 #14
In my unpublished book on art and music I reference a album cover art which the artist granted CTyankee Mar 2023 #15
We will have to agree to disagree here, I believe. CTyankee Mar 2023 #17
On this topic... hippywife Mar 2023 #18
these restrictions are reasonable and understandable (where there is doubt that the museum can CTyankee Mar 2023 #16
Latest Discussions»Culture Forums»Non-Fiction»Since our lively discussi...»Reply #12