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TeamProg

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20. Hmmm, a few thoughts.
Sun Jul 30, 2023, 12:34 PM
Jul 2023

Even in the most practical sense one would think that an old car would plateau, sure. But man, have you checked out the price of a Model A, Cord or a Marmon recently? Or the price on a DeLorean DMC-12, which is kind of a crappy car?

I've read plenty of articles about the values of collector cars and the cars go up and down with external trends. But when pristine cars keeps breaking record prices, the lesser condition cars all go up. There is no denying that.

"Only the pristine will increase much in value." A greater increase for sure, but from my personal experience and other vintage car collectors that I know, even daily drivers are increasing in value a lot. I have seen a 100% increase in 10 years, 400% 20 years, 800% in 30 years. I'd say that's a pretty good investment and that is what myself and others that I know have experienced - on part-time daily drivers.

Examples:
A current neighbor paid 30k for a 1970 Porsche 911T nice driver 15 years ago, he recently turned down a 100k offer.
An old roommate bought a Jag XK120 for 6k in 1989, today it's worth 70k as-is and a lot more if he painted the thing.

Insurance? - No. Classic car insurance is so cheap!

Storage? Certainly that would be am off-setting cost be but not if you already own enough garage space for the vehicles.

""Drivers are nicer to have, and you get to use them, but are worth a lot less."" Yes, but mostly still worth more than what they were purchased for. The investment is pretty solid.


"" I doubt that the market for the cars you mentioned is strong in the sub 30 year-old set."" - Young people are still getting into the Beatles and Stones.

Aesthetics (an old Jag) stand the test of time, semantics (a Ford Focus) generally do not.


""Yearly inflation takes a cut. "" Like any tangible good, the monetary value goes up against a weaker dollar.


""Buy one that you will enjoy driving and can afford to maintain. Just don't buy for the hopes of a huge profit.""


To expect a "huge profit" on any investment isn't reality, but even money market accounts won't double your money in 10 years, or even 20 years.


I'd say the main problem with long term ownership is that young people aren't as much into collecting or owning a bunch of stuff - so that will affect even showroom quality vehicles. The other major problem is the overall future of the planet / global economy. You can't eat a car, but you can't eat gold or a Monet, either.

It also help to be at least a little bit of a mechanic to save money and / or as a hobby. Parts for old collectors aren't outrageous except for German and Italian stuff.

One of the nicest things about driving them aside from the fun and handling, is the friendly waves and conversations they start, meeting other collectors, group drives, etc.

Have fun!



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How long did it take for leaded gas to disappear ? rickford66 Apr 2023 #1
I was going to say a lot will depend on the price of gas. Mr.Bill Apr 2023 #3
Aviation gas will always be available rickford66 Apr 2023 #4
I don't know how legal it is from state to state Mr.Bill Apr 2023 #6
Agreed. Pride of ownership and weekend driving only. brush Apr 2023 #7
Really it's that way already Mr.Bill Apr 2023 #9
You can still get leaded gas for race cars Best_man23 Jul 2023 #21
I believe sports cars & Muscle cars will rise in value. There's always going to be people who napi21 Apr 2023 #2
I've been around Austin Healy's, Jaguars, sprint cars, many others SonofDonald Apr 2023 #5
NOOOOOOO! Your last sentence is so depressing, but I get it as it's what I was fearing. brush Apr 2023 #8
I'm going to keep on enjoying mine SonofDonald Apr 2023 #13
Gas and ICE cars Metaphorical Apr 2023 #10
Thanks. I was having this discussion with a friend a couple... brush Apr 2023 #11
What you said about global peak of oil SonofDonald Apr 2023 #15
EV conversions have been around a long time Hermit-The-Prog Apr 2023 #12
Its going to take a long time for the classic car community to embrace EV conversions Best_man23 Jul 2023 #22
Only value we're concerned about is... OneBlueDotS-Carolina Apr 2023 #14
It will stay the same as today until emissions become the major issue hydrolastic Apr 2023 #16
I read a while ago Old Crank Jun 2023 #17
"""Buying a car for 'investment' purposes is a fools errand unless you can afford the tip top of the TeamProg Jul 2023 #18
You have to account for all costs Old Crank Jul 2023 #19
Hmmm, a few thoughts. TeamProg Jul 2023 #20
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