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In reply to the discussion: The myth of moral equivalence [View all]Your assertion:
What you are doing is pointing out that abuse and coverup has happened elsewhere,
and in doing so, you believe you absolve religion itself from ANY role in sexual abuse and coverup ANYWHERE.
and in doing so, you believe you absolve religion itself from ANY role in sexual abuse and coverup ANYWHERE.
What I actually wrote:
What causes the Roman Catholic Church (RCC) to hide the problem of pedophile priests?
My thoughts on the issue:
Looking at the last entry, dealing with sexual abuse of a minor, we see that 95% of children are abused by someone that they know, and that 50% of those who molest a young child are family members.
We know that sexualized violence is a human trait.
We know that those who commit sexualized violence are predators.
We know that predators will be found where the potential victims are found. A deer hunter does not hunt for deer in an urban area. The hunter goes where the deer are to be found. And these predators are on the hunt for their victims, so it makes sense that they will be found wherever there are victims.
In the case of the RCC, we have a male priesthood, and if males make up 90% of those who sexually abuse children, it stands to reason that in a predominantly male group, the likelihood of finding predators is apparent.
Again, in the case of the RCC, we have a very hierarchical institution, and given the frequency with which institutions tend to protect their own, we can understand, but we cannot excuse, why the RCC felt it was necessary to close ranks around their offenders.
We also know, as I have pointed out by linking to my posts here, that RCC Canon Law was, and remains, written to keep child abuse in house, in the RCC itself.
A similar problem can be found in the military, where Commanders have often hidden sex crimes committed under their command.
A similar problem can be found in the police forces, where some officers obviously have an us versus them mentality when they cover for their own.
Almost as if all of these various groupings function somewhat like a tribe, where the interests of tribe members override other interests.
My personal conclusion:
Unfortunately, sexual abuse is a human trait. A certain percentage of humans will abuse others if they can do so. This does not excuse the abuse, nor does it excuse the even more egregious act of covering up sexual abuse.
In my view, the cover up is definitely worse than the crime.
Finally, as I pointed out here and elsewhere, there can be no excusing sexual violence. Sexualized violence is primarily violence and aggression, and we all, as individuals and as members of institutions, have an obligation to expose it when we find it.
Now, you explain to me where I engaged in a cover up or avoidance.
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I did not say anything was excusable or that there was any attempt at excusing behavior
marylandblue
Sep 2018
#2
Demonstrating only that you misunderstand the proper application of the fallacy.
guillaumeb
Sep 2018
#14
I have linked to many articles demonstrating how covering up sexual assault is
guillaumeb
Sep 2018
#42
What you are doing is pointing out that abuse and coverup has happened elsewhere,
trotsky
Sep 2018
#32
What you did was demonstrate that you misunderstood what I wrote, and have written.
guillaumeb
Sep 2018
#41
And when you understand why it is used, you will see that it does not apply.
guillaumeb
Sep 2018
#38
But we aren't (religion) allowed to mention (religion) what makes the RCC (religion)
trotsky
Sep 2018
#34