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TreasonousBastard

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13. Yes, I'm aware of that, and when I first heard it, a lot of things became clearer...

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:04 AM

Sep 2018

I rarely mention them, though, because I don't come from that background. I am more comfortable speaking from a Christian point of view, even though I don't believe much of it. I was just brought up that way.

I've seen is a lot of Jewish thought along those lines and would like to know more. I've found a lot of ancient wisdom in Judaism that doesn't seem to reach the rest of the world.

Anyway, religion is a lot like the elephant and the blind men. Everyone has a piece of the truth, but the whole thing evades them.

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