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DetlefK

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37. Do you have any evidence for your claim?

Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #31)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 02:30 AM

Oct 2018

Where in islamic sources does it say that there is a distinction between those who conceal the truth and those who are unaware of the truth?

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Yes, You Are Taking Those Verses out of Context: A Muslim Responds to Atheist Ali A. Rizvi [View all] guillaumeb Oct 2018 OP

Can't wait for the year 4018... Act_of_Reparation Oct 2018 #1

And other Muslims will accuse him of misreading the verses. trotsky Oct 2018 #2

I don't see moderates providing cover for fundamentalists marylandblue Oct 2018 #4

In Islamic countries where being an atheist can get Voltaire2 Oct 2018 #5

All the more reason to support moderate muslims marylandblue Oct 2018 #7

Moderates of all religions provide cover for fundamentalists. trotsky Oct 2018 #6

Do you know of anyone who thinks that because moderates exist marylandblue Oct 2018 #8

Lending legitimacy is not the same as saying they're okay.. Permanut Oct 2018 #9

What would you like moderate christians to do about fundamentalists? marylandblue Oct 2018 #10

Fair question.. Permanut Oct 2018 #12

I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying. trotsky Oct 2018 #11

I understand what you are saying, I just don't agree with it marylandblue Oct 2018 #13

... trotsky Oct 2018 #14

Point is, there would be fundamentalists no matter what marylandblue Oct 2018 #15

There probably would be, but they would be a lot more marginalized. trotsky Oct 2018 #16

Here is an example of enabling religious extremism Voltaire2 Oct 2018 #19

I am not sure how that enables religious extremism marylandblue Oct 2018 #20

The theist's go-to excuse Cartoonist Oct 2018 #3

His "debunks" are mind-boggling and utterly ridiculous: DetlefK Oct 2018 #17

It's basically the same message of religious "moderates" everywhere. trotsky Oct 2018 #18

You, perhaps inadvertently, confirmed the author's point. guillaumeb Oct 2018 #21

And what is this truth the Quran refers to? It is the existence of God. DetlefK Oct 2018 #22

And this deflection does not address my point. guillaumeb Oct 2018 #24

Fine. Here's my whole point for those too lazy to read. DetlefK Oct 2018 #25

What you said: guillaumeb Oct 2018 #31

Do you have any evidence for your claim? DetlefK Oct 2018 #37

It is literally directly addressing your argument Lordquinton Oct 2018 #26

Just like every other time he's tripped over his own Voltaire2 Oct 2018 #27

On the other hand, I have five fingers. MineralMan Oct 2018 #28

Focused on one line of a long post Lordquinton Oct 2018 #35

Those who conceal the truth Cartoonist Oct 2018 #23

Including our OP? MineralMan Oct 2018 #29

Yes, but he doesn't take it literally. Cartoonist Oct 2018 #30

No, those who conceal the truth guillaumeb Oct 2018 #32

We'll just agree Cartoonist Oct 2018 #33

Speaking of multiple personalities, guillaumeb Oct 2018 #34

Seconded Lordquinton Oct 2018 #36

Uh what? Voltaire2 Oct 2018 #38