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Major Nikon

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62. I suppose it depends on what goals you mean

Wed Nov 28, 2018, 11:52 PM

Nov 2018

If the political goal is to elect more people with a D after their name, then that goal would seem to be shared by anyone who votes for more people with a D after their name.

If the political goal is to make government more secular, then I’d think anarchists would be more certain allies.

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What progressives need to defeat Trump: populism and religion [View all] guillaumeb Nov 2018 OP

Religion is antiquated and quaint. Not a winning thing. NOT Progressive. bitterross Nov 2018 #1

"There is no such thing as progressive religion." marylandblue Nov 2018 #2

The terms are mutually exclusive. bitterross Nov 2018 #3

Why not? marylandblue Nov 2018 #8

Yes it matters. bitterross Nov 2018 #21

"belief in supernatural beings" and "belief in mythological beings?" marylandblue Nov 2018 #22

I would have to disagree. I believe in many ancient mythologies. gtar100 Nov 2018 #17

It seems you support the principles and teachings. Not the mythology. bitterross Nov 2018 #19

What?! qazplm135 Nov 2018 #49

I said that "progressive religion" is not possible bitterross Nov 2018 #50

buddhism? qazplm135 Nov 2018 #52

Buddhism is not a religion bitterross Nov 2018 #54

Izzit possible for me to claim being a Christologically theistic sprinkleeninow Nov 2018 #12

Sure, just build an open air church and pray to the Father, Son and Holy Nothing marylandblue Nov 2018 #14

You may claim to be whatever you like. bitterross Nov 2018 #20

Your title is the answer to your text. marylandblue Nov 2018 #23

Trump Claims to be a stable genius. bitterross Nov 2018 #27

Relevant and possible are two different things. marylandblue Nov 2018 #32

Progressive religion is an oxymoron Major Nikon Nov 2018 #24

"religion worth discussing" marylandblue Nov 2018 #33

"actual religions" Major Nikon Nov 2018 #37

I consider a religion to.be a set of beliefs and/or practices marylandblue Nov 2018 #46

All of the things you mention have barriers to progressivism Major Nikon Nov 2018 #48

see, this is why I like Facebook Brainstormy Nov 2018 #51

Religion's contribution would be about motivation, not necessarily solutions marylandblue Nov 2018 #59

You could say the same about anarchists Major Nikon Nov 2018 #60

Anarchists have very different political goals so they are uncertain allies at best marylandblue Nov 2018 #61

I suppose it depends on what goals you mean Major Nikon Nov 2018 #62

Alliances are always situational and temporary marylandblue Nov 2018 #65

The GOP started allying with the religionists back in the 60's Major Nikon Nov 2018 #66

I don't see old right wing evangelicals joining the Democrats marylandblue Nov 2018 #69

It wasn't that long ago they WERE democrats Major Nikon Nov 2018 #70

That's about as far as I got into that article. tbh. violetpastille Nov 2018 #4

There is such a thing as progressive populism marylandblue Nov 2018 #9

What is an example? violetpastille Nov 2018 #10

Grassroots movements. The Women's March. marylandblue Nov 2018 #11

Well.. violetpastille Nov 2018 #16

The organization of the Women's March has come under a lot of fire MineralMan Nov 2018 #31

If a movement doesn't develop strong leaders, it go off the rails marylandblue Nov 2018 #34

As a spontaneous protest, it did a great job. MineralMan Nov 2018 #35

Maybe I should say "strong and ethical" leadership marylandblue Nov 2018 #36

I don't follow the women's movement closely, but MineralMan Nov 2018 #38

Much of the trouble stems from connections to the Nation of Islam Act_of_Reparation Nov 2018 #40

Yes. I linked to an article about that upthread. MineralMan Nov 2018 #41

A blind spot, indeed. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2018 #42

Oil and water do not mix. NRaleighLiberal Nov 2018 #5

Uhhh... no. Add racism and sexism, and you can just call yourself a trumper. Squinch Nov 2018 #6

So all theists are Trump voters? guillaumeb Nov 2018 #55

Well, I never said anything of the sort, but if you must set Squinch Nov 2018 #58

Its amazing how fast those two things Eko Nov 2018 #7

The "nones" are now the largest voting bloc when it comes to religious groups. trotsky Nov 2018 #13

Why do you want to alienate progressive theists? guillaumeb Nov 2018 #56

You keep setting up these ridiculous straw men. Do religious people get points for manufactured Squinch Nov 2018 #63

They get awesome Internet points, I guess. trotsky Nov 2018 #68

Read trotskys comment. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #73

Now you're not even trying to make sense. Squinch Nov 2018 #74

Such a weak attempt at reframing. trotsky Nov 2018 #67

So progressive theists are going to jump ship if we don't sufficiently kiss their asses? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2018 #71

I want my secular republic back. Voltaire2 Nov 2018 #15

Amen Adsos Letter Nov 2018 #18

Yeah, just what we need Major Nikon Nov 2018 #25

Yes please. trotsky Nov 2018 #28

Religious populism is the cure to religious populism? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2018 #26

The fervor of a fanatic. trotsky Nov 2018 #30

All we need to keep us safe from the gun nuts are more gun nuts Major Nikon Nov 2018 #43

"Gott mit Uns" MineralMan Nov 2018 #29

The most successful populist in recent history was Adolf Hitler. MineralMan Nov 2018 #39

Populism is just a polite word for demagoguery Major Nikon Nov 2018 #44

Exactly. MineralMan Nov 2018 #45

Here you go, g-man. Someone who shares your concerns about the left lacking religion. trotsky Nov 2018 #47

you cant be religious and call yourself progressive AlexSFCA Nov 2018 #53

Many theists disagree with you. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #57

What is your problem with the Chinese? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2018 #64

Apart from the concentration camps, and the severely repressive guillaumeb Nov 2018 #72

So the Chinese people build concentration camps and are generally repressive? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2018 #75

Do yuo distinguish between the Chinese Government and guillaumeb Nov 2018 #77

Do you? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2018 #78

If the believers don't believe . . . OneBro Nov 2018 #76