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Major Nikon

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13. Paul's epistles were only authentic to Paul

Mon Dec 3, 2018, 10:54 AM

Dec 2018

Paul described himself as an "apostle", but unlike the disciples never met Jesus. He was a religious huckster who started out denigrating Christians until he figured out the profit angle of bringing gentiles to the party.

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Here's a Page from the original 1611 printing of the King James [View all] MineralMan Dec 2018 OP

Hardly call it a "guess" zipplewrath Dec 2018 #1

OK. Whatever you say, then. MineralMan Dec 2018 #3

Explanation can be found in post#6 Major Nikon Dec 2018 #8

And what did English sound like in olden days: MineralMan Dec 2018 #2

Good study Bibles attempt to address these issues exboyfil Dec 2018 #4

Yes, they attempt to do that. MineralMan Dec 2018 #5

Furthering your point, watoos Dec 2018 #26

When we turn to look at explainers and explicators MineralMan Dec 2018 #32

There's a good reason why many Christians reject anything other than the KJV Major Nikon Dec 2018 #6

Yes. In almost 2000 years of translations, edits and manipulations, MineralMan Dec 2018 #9

Paul's epistles were only authentic to Paul Major Nikon Dec 2018 #13

Well, you're correct, of course. MineralMan Dec 2018 #18

Ah Paul! zipplewrath Dec 2018 #20

There is an answer Major Nikon Dec 2018 #21

Well that, and... zipplewrath Dec 2018 #23

I gather circumcision was not much of a selling point, too. Pope George Ringo II Dec 2018 #60

... but he was a very good writer TomVilmer Dec 2018 #25

The best hucksters are quite articulate and persuasive Major Nikon Dec 2018 #48

Indeed; Paul was a first-century L. Ron Hubbard or Joseph Smith. /nt LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #49

Interesting comparison! MineralMan Dec 2018 #51

Also of note, it is not easy to find words of equivalent when translating Raven123 Dec 2018 #7

Yes, absolutely. MineralMan Dec 2018 #10

True Major Nikon Dec 2018 #11

And even a mouse (the rodent) is a changeable thing. MineralMan Dec 2018 #19

Similar reaction in my house. Another group of humans seem afraid of mice (and -like creatures) erronis Dec 2018 #22

Your (apparently rhetorical) question ... MousePlayingDaffodil Dec 2018 #12

I'm not sure what question you are trying to answer Major Nikon Dec 2018 #15

Yes. I understand that. MineralMan Dec 2018 #16

What about this thought? watoos Dec 2018 #34

More interesting questions. I don't know. MineralMan Dec 2018 #52

Have you read Bart Ehrman? BlueSky3 Dec 2018 #61

No, but I'll check it out when I have time. MineralMan Dec 2018 #62

Misquoting Jesus led to me questioning my life-long fundamentalist beliefs classof56 Dec 2018 #66

Thanks for the rec. MarvinGardens Dec 2018 #70

Unfortunately zipplewrath Dec 2018 #24

So your opinion is edhopper Dec 2018 #72

I'm still hoping eth and thorn make a comback sometime soon. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2018 #14

Wouldn't that be fun? Reintroduce old orthography. MineralMan Dec 2018 #17

Don't you mean... geardaddy Dec 2018 #31

Exactly! MineralMan Dec 2018 #33

They are alive and well in Iceland, the exception to the general rule The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #29

Excellent example of how isolation tends to freeze language. MineralMan Dec 2018 #35

And now they are trying to preserve it by avoiding loan-words The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #39

That's wonderful information! MineralMan Dec 2018 #46

I mean I am hoping they make a comeback in English. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2018 #54

You can start the trend. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #56

Sounds like a blast. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2018 #57

LOL! MineralMan Dec 2018 #63

They're still used in Icelandic. geardaddy Dec 2018 #30

Indeed they are. Someone else also pointed that out, just upthread. MineralMan Dec 2018 #41

Yep, I posted that just before I saw the response upthread. geardaddy Dec 2018 #58

The more, the merrier! MineralMan Dec 2018 #59

It's still used in Norwegian and Danish. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #43

I think you would be interested in this book. MarvinGardens Dec 2018 #27

Well, now that two people have recommended that book, MineralMan Dec 2018 #64

Bart Ehrman BlueSky3 Dec 2018 #65

From Thomas Paine's The Age of Reason mart48 Dec 2018 #28

Some look it as a creation of some deity. MineralMan Dec 2018 #37

There's another layer of ambiguity to add to what you've mentioned, thucythucy Dec 2018 #36

That's a very good point. Thanks. MineralMan Dec 2018 #40

Another thing to consider today is MineralMan Dec 2018 #44

This thread has become something unusual. MineralMan Dec 2018 #38

I study WW1 thbobby Dec 2018 #42

Very pertinent. MineralMan Dec 2018 #45

Well worth thinking about, if we care to do so. elleng Dec 2018 #47

Yes. Much more recent, of course. MineralMan Dec 2018 #50

Suddenly It hit me MFM008 Dec 2018 #53

Yes. MineralMan Dec 2018 #55

To repeat the point that the meaning of a text changes with time, struggle4progress Dec 2018 #67

That's very interesting, indeed. MineralMan Dec 2018 #68

A Plan for the Improvement of Spelling in the English Language.... mbusby Dec 2018 #69

i might have ended up being called retarded, cause those fonts are hell on my dislexia. pansypoo53219 Dec 2018 #71