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PoindexterOglethorpe

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36. Alas, it's not even very good science fiction.

Mon Dec 3, 2018, 11:04 AM

Dec 2018

I managed to grow up blissfully unaware of certain standard Bible stories, and the first time I heard about God telling Abraham to murder his son, Isaac, I was so horrified that had I not already abandoned any semblance of religious belief, that alone would have made me do so.

Telling a father to kill his son? THAT'S what a god does? There is something seriously wrong with that.

And people think non-believers can't possibly be moral.

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Let's see how this works: The First Part of Genesis Is a Metaphor for Childbirth [View all] MineralMan Dec 2018 OP

Nice. delisen Dec 2018 #1

It's up to personal interpretation Lordquinton Dec 2018 #2

Yup. You have to find the metaphor. MineralMan Dec 2018 #3

And it has to be the correct metaphor Lordquinton Dec 2018 #4

The beginning is an excellent metaphorical version of the Big Bang theory. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #5

You keep forgetting to qualify this as your opinion Major Nikon Dec 2018 #17

An unrealistic position. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #18

When then at least you are honest about your duplicity Major Nikon Dec 2018 #19

And you are consistently insulting. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #21

You insulted yourself by admitting to being duplicitous Major Nikon Dec 2018 #34

And you follow insult with false accusation. eom guillaumeb Dec 2018 #41

Kinda rich coming from the one who without basis calls non-believers here "intolerant" Major Nikon Dec 2018 #46

Points for being consistent. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #47

So everyone who disagrees with you now is a "definer" Major Nikon Dec 2018 #48

No, you called "bullshit" on a well known position on water as Biblical metaphor. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #49

Sure, just like everyone who calls bullshit on invisible sky daddies is a "believer" Major Nikon Dec 2018 #50

Your response reveals what you want to believe. eom guillaumeb Dec 2018 #57

Sure, the alternative to that is duplicity Major Nikon Dec 2018 #61

And again, your responses are either gifs, guillaumeb Dec 2018 #62

So far just in the last day you have called me... Major Nikon Dec 2018 #63

Please! TwistOneUp Dec 2018 #52

So if a non-theist attempts to be "THE DEFINER" I should overlook the attempt? eom guillaumeb Dec 2018 #58

Hey, it was YOUR GOD that allegedly said ... TwistOneUp Dec 2018 #59

So non-theists become the definers? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #60

So the authors of Genesis knew about the Big Bang thousands of years before Georges Lemaitre? Act_of_Reparation Dec 2018 #39

I said exactly what I meant. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #42

And yet the problem remains unaddressed. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2018 #55

Another attempt at reconciliation/explanation: guillaumeb Dec 2018 #6

The Earth was not created for 10 billion years edhopper Dec 2018 #16

And there is this, from the same source as above: guillaumeb Dec 2018 #7

You appear to have missed the satirical tone of my MineralMan Dec 2018 #8

Sharing information is never a waste of time. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #9

You did not share information. MineralMan Dec 2018 #10

I shared viewpoints that differ from your own views. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #11

You shared examples of eisegesis. MineralMan Dec 2018 #12

You made a claim about myths reflecting a knowledge of the Big Bang theory. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #13

.. MineralMan Dec 2018 #14

I am also sorry. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #15

Deriving hidden meanings from the bible. Wow, what a revelation! Major Nikon Dec 2018 #20

Interpreting metaphor 101. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #22

Thanks for that, Captain Obvious Major Nikon Dec 2018 #23

And you are free to"call bullshit", just as we are free to interpret that call guillaumeb Dec 2018 #24

Credibility speaks for itself when an "interpretation" is obvious strawman bullshit Major Nikon Dec 2018 #25

More confirrmation, not that it is needed, guillaumeb Dec 2018 #30

"confirmation" Major Nikon Dec 2018 #31

Yes, there is a lot of projection in these posts. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #32

Ah yes, the fully predictable rework of the tired old "I'm rubber, you're glue" cliche Major Nikon Dec 2018 #33

#42! MineralMan Dec 2018 #38

My literature classes taught me that metaphors did not have infinite meaning marylandblue Dec 2018 #40

And? eom guillaumeb Dec 2018 #43

And it means you can't treat a flood and a baptism as the same metaphor marylandblue Dec 2018 #44

#1) Water is the common element. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #45

Both of your examples refer to a literal flood, not a metaphorical one Major Nikon Dec 2018 #51

Your second link is from a Hebrew Christian source, not Jewish marylandblue Dec 2018 #53

Yes, we have a special word for Jews that believe in Jesus. TwistOneUp Dec 2018 #56

I'm guessing "Canadian girlfriend" underpants Dec 2018 #26

Our time should be better spent. mobeau69 Dec 2018 #27

I see. Well, I guess you told me, then. MineralMan Dec 2018 #28

I was raised Roman Catholic, which means I was never encouraged to read the Bible. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2018 #29

Now you know why the RCC kept the bible under lock and key for centuries Major Nikon Dec 2018 #35

Alas, it's not even very good science fiction. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2018 #36

Imagine the worst immorality. There's probably a reference condoning it in the bible Major Nikon Dec 2018 #37

Well that should irritate gay texan Dec 2018 #54