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violetpastille

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72. I said "I don't think that"
Fri Dec 28, 2018, 01:26 PM
Dec 2018

Not "I know that."

Nearly everyday I find something I was taught in school is no longer true. I was told never to give my baby peanut products. Now that she is in school with a bunch of kids with deathly peanut allergies new parents are being told to give babies peanut butter as soon as possible.
Even facts change.
What can I know with certainty? What authority can I hand over my trust? The more I "know" the more I know I don't know.

I experience that the world exists. That it is a beautiful world. That the creator and the created are not two separate things. That I can't hurt you without hurting myself.

If I were enlightened I could always be in that place of oneness and not have to work so hard against economic and technological exigencies to stay there.
Technology does not get me there.
(I'll let others to their otherness.)


I had to Google to find out about Luther coming up with the Reformation whilst straining on the toilet. He was constipated a lot and from the links I read he was really into the excrement metaphors. “I’m like a ripe stool and the world is like a gigantic anus.”
Jeepers, do you kiss your mom with that mouth, Martin Luther?
Lots of farting in the Devil's general direction and etc.

But good for him calling BS on priestly celibacy and paying for indulgences. That is a load of crap.

At the end of Einstein's God Letter he says, (I paraphrase) "Whatever. Even though you totally believe this stuff and I totally don't, I still believe we could be friends as long as we talk about concrete matters."

Unfortunately...

My neighbors all go to the same prosperity gospel church and they do everything they can to make us unwelcome. They leave their stuff all over the street and let their dogs run in the street and poop on our grass and blame it on other peoples (leashed) dogs. They let days go by before they bring in their garbage cans. Their kids tell my kid she's going to hell. They have about three cars per person that they can't park in their garages because that's where the Christmas decorations go. It's their own little Dominion.

I don't feel very "interconnected" on these occasions. No poops nor code strings seem to help. I need to go into nature and pray.


We could use another Reformation. imho. And a better HOA.

True. eom KPN Dec 2018 #1
Everybody has them. Turbineguy Dec 2018 #2
Understood. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #6
No, Guillaumeb. Cognitive biases and emotional decisions MineralMan Dec 2018 #3
I don't think you understand what he's trying to say Major Nikon Dec 2018 #8
Oh, no, I understand what he's trying to say just fine. MineralMan Dec 2018 #12
I'm not sure his research is limited to just that one site Major Nikon Dec 2018 #14
Well, there are also random blogs on Patheos. MineralMan Dec 2018 #16
So what is your logical argument for theism? Major Nikon Dec 2018 #4
My argument, guillaumeb Dec 2018 #5
You didn't understand the question Major Nikon Dec 2018 #7
I removed the ad hominem from your response, guillaumeb Dec 2018 #9
Sure, because calling bullshit on bullshit is ad hominem Major Nikon Dec 2018 #10
Reverting to your default setting? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #11
Your first fuckup is claiming that I don't find dialog with theists here Major Nikon Dec 2018 #13
OK. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #15
Just one cognitive bias? MineralMan Dec 2018 #17
The word one was your addition. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #18
You wrote: MineralMan Dec 2018 #20
Cognitive bias describes behavior. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #22
Read the article. MineralMan Dec 2018 #23
Did you read the link? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #24
Goodbye. MineralMan Dec 2018 #25
Goodbye. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #31
He clearly read the link Lordquinton Dec 2018 #41
Neither of you did, in my opinion. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #47
So you read the article too, right? Lordquinton Dec 2018 #62
No, his "point" was to accuse me of making an error by referrign to it in the singular. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #64
And he was not incorrect, was he? Lordquinton Dec 2018 #67
He was incorrect. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #68
"Cognitive Biases or Errors Are at the Heart of Religion" Lordquinton Dec 2018 #70
... Major Nikon Dec 2018 #69
One reason you complain about the lack of dialog... Major Nikon Dec 2018 #19
I provided an answer. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #21
OK, so "faith" is your idea of a logical argument Major Nikon Dec 2018 #27
Not at all what I actually said. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #34
Please continue as this just keeps getting better Major Nikon Dec 2018 #37
Incorrect on your part. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #43
Please continue... Major Nikon Dec 2018 #48
Sad. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #49
Please continue to say you didn't say what you said Major Nikon Dec 2018 #51
Logical violetpastille Dec 2018 #26
What is a spiritual experience? wasupaloopa Dec 2018 #29
Here was mine violetpastille Dec 2018 #30
Church services provide a community. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #35
Humans need community. violetpastille Dec 2018 #36
Very well put. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #32
Tell us again how "faith" is your logical argument Major Nikon Dec 2018 #38
You are misframing what I said. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #44
Thanks for giving me another opportunity to prove your faceplant Major Nikon Dec 2018 #50
Unintentional humor on your part. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #52
Thanks for the unintentional laugh Major Nikon Dec 2018 #59
"I don't think anybody ever had a spiritual experience hacking away on a laptop. " Lordquinton Dec 2018 #42
If the Buddha, or Jesus or Mohammed violetpastille Dec 2018 #63
I can attest that many actual "hackers" Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #71
I said "I don't think that" violetpastille Dec 2018 #72
You cannot prove a negative so your question to athiests is irrational. wasupaloopa Dec 2018 #28
I never talk about proof. I talk about faith. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #33
Meanwhile you reveal you can't tell the difference between a fact and a claim Major Nikon Dec 2018 #39
And you continue to reveal your agenda, and tactics. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #45
True Major Nikon Dec 2018 #53
The first citation reveals that you misframed my response. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #54
Please continue to claim that Major Nikon Dec 2018 #60
That makes no sense. You base it all on your belief wasupaloopa Dec 2018 #40
I have faith. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #46
I find it interesting that you always focus on the unprovable Eko Dec 2018 #55
What an interesting response. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #56
Here. Eko Dec 2018 #57
Okay. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #58
Great. Eko Dec 2018 #61
He won't Major Nikon Dec 2018 #65
I know. Eko Dec 2018 #66
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