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NeoGreen

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Thu Jan 24, 2019, 03:16 PM Jan 2019

With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but... [View all]

...for good people to do evil — that takes religion.

Frederick Douglass told in his Narrative how his condition as a slave became worse when his master underwent a religious conversion that allowed him to justify slavery as the punishment of the children of Ham. Mark Twain described his mother as a genuinely good person, whose soft heart pitied even Satan, but who had no doubt about the legitimacy of slavery, because in years of living in antebellum Missouri she had never heard any sermon opposing slavery, but only countless sermons preaching that slavery was God's will. With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil — that takes religion.
Steven Weinberg
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Religion (and faith) create the framework. trotsky Jan 2019 #1
Yeah, religion is never used to make good people do bad things Major Nikon Jan 2019 #5
He's a smart guy. Donald Trump should have him visit the White House MineralMan Jan 2019 #2
They can have tea leftieNanner Jan 2019 #26
So the evil that the Chinese Government is currently engaging in is because of..... guillaumeb Jan 2019 #3
Yeah, whatabout those Chinese "atheists" Major Nikon Jan 2019 #4
#Whataboutism n/t trotsky Jan 2019 #6
The conflation of Chinese Government/Atheism persecution of christians is a RWNJ meme... NeoGreen Jan 2019 #7
Dude, if he can't whatabout the Chinese government, he's got nothing to say. trotsky Jan 2019 #8
Dude, if all he has is 'whatabouts' of the Chinese government... NeoGreen Jan 2019 #9
Robust dialogue? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #11
Posting what is actually going on in China guillaumeb Jan 2019 #10
This thread is not about that. Your attempt to make it about MineralMan Jan 2019 #12
Yes, yes. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #14
.. MineralMan Jan 2019 #16
Ah, more "eye for an eye" justice. trotsky Jan 2019 #17
There is no point in attempting to discuss 'reality' with anyone who... NeoGreen Jan 2019 #13
More "dialogue"? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #15
Correct, it is not dialog, it is a dismissal... NeoGreen Jan 2019 #18
How heartbraking. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #19
Is the heartbraking pedal the one on the left or the right? MineralMan Jan 2019 #21
Yes. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #23
What does a discussion about Frederick Douglass have to do with China? MineralMan Jan 2019 #20
The typical blend of ad hominem and reaction to what is done here constantly. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #22
Probably because you bring it up every time you can Lordquinton Jan 2019 #25
The spokesperson for MM? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #27
Avoiding the comment? Lordquinton Jan 2019 #35
Not the topic at hand. Stop with the distraction. bitterross Jan 2019 #29
Your objection is noted. eom guillaumeb Jan 2019 #30
And it will, based on the past, be ignored. /nt bitterross Jan 2019 #32
Given the constant such diversions here, guillaumeb Jan 2019 #33
Tradition, for tradition's sake is not good. bitterross Jan 2019 #36
And simplistic, reductionistic memes are not good either. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #37
Eye for an eye justice. trotsky Jan 2019 #38
Literal Jesus or metaphorical Jesus? Major Nikon Jan 2019 #43
It's a strange slogan. It presumes that "good person" and "bad person" are somehow struggle4progress Jan 2019 #24
I think you are right, but people tend to think in categories marylandblue Jan 2019 #34
So a good athiest qazplm135 Jan 2019 #28
And who defines what a good atheist is? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #31
What??? Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #40
Read #s 28 and 31 in sequence. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #41
What??? Major Nikon Jan 2019 #42
In addition... NeoGreen Jan 2019 #39
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