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In reply to the discussion: Does God have free will? [View all]

enki23

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30. Christians (and their type) have been LOLing at that one from long before there were Christians.
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 10:09 PM
Jan 2019

But never once have they successfully answered it. In the end it's all just jazz hands and cutesy, obfuscationist bullshit like "God and goodness are one!" And "how about those Patriots?"

Anyway, the older Christians thought omnipotence only meant something if their god was free to do whatever it wanted. No, that doesn't solve the dilemma. But it means they were stuck with one horn, and they had to make that one work. They figured that the power to do only what you must do, nothing more, nothing less, means you don't really "do" anything at all. Which makes sense, because that god isn't so much like a perfect person as like a perfect bit of plumbing. All the water gets where it has to go, with never an errant drop. Praise him.

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Does God have free will? [View all] edhopper Jan 2019 OP
How stoned are you? johnnyplankton Jan 2019 #1
LOL! calimary Jan 2019 #2
I wish edhopper Jan 2019 #6
It's not a new question; the presumption of omniptence is problematic LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #13
That sounds like something Satan would say Major Nikon Jan 2019 #3
I was taught that god is ... N_E_1 for Tennis Jan 2019 #4
It's funny watching people wrestle with these types of questions Fullduplexxx Jan 2019 #5
Doesn't matter edhopper Jan 2019 #7
Is murder evil? Fullduplexxx Jan 2019 #9
according to me edhopper Jan 2019 #10
Do they differ? Fullduplexxx Jan 2019 #12
Not according to the god, if we postulate omniscience and omnipotence LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #15
When I read the Bible edhopper Jan 2019 #17
We're created in his image Lordquinton Jan 2019 #18
But we can choose evil edhopper Jan 2019 #19
That's why we have the mysterious ways loophole Lordquinton Jan 2019 #22
but his motivation is always good edhopper Jan 2019 #23
I'm sure glad I'm not taking that position Lordquinton Jan 2019 #25
the only evil is to oppose God....God cannot oppose him/herself, but still has free will. irresistable Jan 2019 #26
Can God create a burrito that is too hot for God to eat? malchickiwick Jan 2019 #8
God's wind! Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #20
No, he has to pay for it! NRaleighLiberal Jan 2019 #11
"God" is holding a 2100 year grudge against a woman that ate piece of fruit. LakeArenal Jan 2019 #14
Isn't more like 4000 years? Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #21
"God" must just be a sadist Duppers Jan 2019 #16
The Creator is described as omnipotent. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #24
God created man in his own image lordsummerisle Jan 2019 #27
God does what he's told. Turbineguy Jan 2019 #28
All i know is that he likes to watch.... dubyadiprecession Jan 2019 #29
Christians (and their type) have been LOLing at that one from long before there were Christians. enki23 Jan 2019 #30
Free will pamdb Jan 2019 #31
The premise edhopper Jan 2019 #32
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