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marylandblue

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54. I think what makes the RCC scandal is that it was a well organized network

Sun Mar 10, 2019, 09:55 AM

Mar 2019

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Bishops would send offending priests to other bishops when both bishops knew they were child abusers. It's not that they just fired a priest and let him quietly find another job, they deliberately sent him to another place which knew they were getting a problem. The priests themselves networked with each other, giving vulnerable children gold crosses as gifts to let others know the child has already been groomed. The church operated its own treatment centers that themselves became hangouts for abusers to continue their activities, and again with knowledge of the bishops.

So while other denominations and institutions have their individual abusers and coverups, none we know of so far had these highly active extended networks.

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Is Tolerance a Good Thing? [View all] MineralMan Mar 2019 OP

Yes, I agree with that and we also need to pay attention to context marylandblue Mar 2019 #1

Yes. Comparing fundamentally dissimilar things wastes time. MineralMan Mar 2019 #2

I can't think of anything that is universally good. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2019 #3

70% Dark Chocolate? MineralMan Mar 2019 #4

Chocolate haters are irrational and the allergic need conversion therapy marylandblue Mar 2019 #5

I must disagree with you, in the most emphatic terms, about dark chocolate. MineralMan Mar 2019 #6

I must, it seems, agree with you on this matter. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #10

A number of posts in this room of 'religion' I 'tolerate'. sprinkleeninow Mar 2019 #7

Milk chocolate is an abomination and those Voltaire2 Mar 2019 #8

Heretic. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2019 #17

Is unconditional tolerance a good thing? guillaumeb Mar 2019 #9

What confusion is that? MineralMan Mar 2019 #11

The confusion evident in your original post. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #12

Which you didn't read, apparently. MineralMan Mar 2019 #13

That is, I believe, the first time you have qualified tolerance or intolerance MineralMan Mar 2019 #15

If you read the actual posts, guillaumeb Mar 2019 #16

Correction. trotsky Mar 2019 #18

The intolerance directed at theists is directed against them because they are theists. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #20

The existence of just one non-persecuted theist in China completely disproves your position. trotsky Mar 2019 #27

A failure in logic. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #32

As you are entitled to your (completely wrong) opinion. trotsky Mar 2019 #42

There's also the fact that non-theists are persecuted for the same reasons Major Nikon Mar 2019 #40

It's all about trying to tie the intolerance of the Chinese government to atheism, of course. trotsky Mar 2019 #43

Don't forget how the Boston Atheists blackballed a Trump humper Major Nikon Mar 2019 #45

So all intolerance is equally bad, but it's universal, so marylandblue Mar 2019 #19

No, but by recognizing the universality, guillaumeb Mar 2019 #21

Either it is all equal, or it is not. If it is all equal, then you have an amoral philosophy. marylandblue Mar 2019 #22

I disagree. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #23

You never actually argue for that position. marylandblue Mar 2019 #24

All human behavior has a cause. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #25

Not all behaviors are truly universal. marylandblue Mar 2019 #26

Your opinion. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #29

Are you not taking the opinion that "intolerance" is universal? marylandblue Mar 2019 #31

I am taking the position that intolerance can be found among every group of humans. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #33

Just be clear, do you think intolerance is also found in all individuals? marylandblue Mar 2019 #34

Yes to the first. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #36

You said intolerance is found in all groups. How.did you mean the term? marylandblue Mar 2019 #37

It is a confusing term. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #38

Well the two types of intolerance are not the same. marylandblue Mar 2019 #39

We agree. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #47

Yeah, but so what. It's not an endpoint, it's a marker. marylandblue Mar 2019 #48

But that begs the question. trotsky Mar 2019 #44

If your religious doctrine commands intolerance and you follow it... Major Nikon Mar 2019 #41

And if 100% of theists agreed with this interpretation, guillaumeb Mar 2019 #46

The assertion doesn't require you agree with it in order to be true Major Nikon Mar 2019 #49

Your assertion is simply that. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #55

It's a statement of fact Major Nikon Mar 2019 #56

You have a unique defintion of the word "fact". eom guillaumeb Mar 2019 #57

Your assertion is evidence of a personal opinion Major Nikon Mar 2019 #58

Once again, you reveal yourself. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #59

The whole idea behind posting is revealing something, Gil Major Nikon Mar 2019 #60

Does a church doctrine require 100% agreement to be harmful? marylandblue Mar 2019 #50

Tolerance is work. You'd have to pay me to do that and I wouldn't be happy. hunter Mar 2019 #14

When I practiced Catholicism, I never met or heard about priests molesting children... real Cannabis calm Mar 2019 #28

Welcome to DU. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #30

Pathetic. Voltaire2 Mar 2019 #53

The Southern Baptists have their own MineralMan Mar 2019 #35

Well, it's not like such priests were advertising what they were doing. MineralMan Mar 2019 #51

Seriously? Voltaire2 Mar 2019 #52

I think what makes the RCC scandal is that it was a well organized network marylandblue Mar 2019 #54