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trotsky

(49,533 posts)
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 08:29 AM Apr 2019

Should veganism receive the same legal protection as a religion? [View all]

(Note: this concerns the UK, not the US. But interesting nonetheless.)

https://theconversation.com/should-veganism-receive-the-same-legal-protection-as-a-religion-114243

Veganism is on the rise globally – but it can be contentious. Only recently, the editor of a food magazine joked that vegans should be force-fed meat while a bank employee told a vegan customer that they should be punched after he objected to some vegan graffiti near his home.

But to what degree should veganism be protected by law as a philosophical belief? It is a question that is central to an employment tribunal case in the UK.

...It’s well known that it’s illegal to discriminate on the basis of a person’s gender, race, religion and so on. But it is also unlawful to discriminate against them on the basis of some of their beliefs – so-called protected beliefs. But not all beliefs are protected. You can’t skip work, for example, just because you believe in having a long lie-in every morning.

The relevant piece of legislation in the UK is the Equality Act, which refers to “philosophical beliefs”, though it doesn’t specify what that means. Article 9 of the European Convention on Human Rights, to which the UK is a signatory, also states that individuals have the right to manifest their religion or belief.
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Veganism overlooks something Cartoonist Apr 2019 #1
Have you ever heard the screams of a carrot NotAPuppet Apr 2019 #2
Are you trying to make a point? Cartoonist Apr 2019 #3
My point was that your example wasn't very good. NotAPuppet Apr 2019 #7
I missed it then Cartoonist Apr 2019 #12
Their ideas are no less rational than religious beliefs are. Mariana Apr 2019 #4
Agreed Cartoonist Apr 2019 #6
I know some vegans. marylandblue Apr 2019 #15
Your 2nd paragraph is a cop-out Cartoonist Apr 2019 #16
And you have no evidence that anything without a nervous system feels anything at all. marylandblue Apr 2019 #18
Who said anything about feelings? Cartoonist Apr 2019 #19
I said something about feelings. I explained what actual vegans think. marylandblue Apr 2019 #20
I know they think that way Cartoonist Apr 2019 #23
And what makes you think it's hypocritical to care about animal pain marylandblue Apr 2019 #24
I'm an omnivore Cartoonist Apr 2019 #26
That's a real stretch. Veganism is about not killing or abusing animals. Blues Heron Apr 2019 #29
Yes it is Major Nikon Apr 2019 #54
You are on a bit of a high horse yourself. marylandblue Apr 2019 #30
No Cartoonist Apr 2019 #34
Steaks don't feel pain, but cows do. Some people are empathetic to the cows. marylandblue Apr 2019 #43
Most care more about thinking they are morally superior Major Nikon Apr 2019 #53
My view is that vegans actually are more empathetic, and there is research to back it up. marylandblue Apr 2019 #57
Cause vs effect Major Nikon Apr 2019 #58
I didn't say being a vegan makes you more empathetic, or that there was any causation marylandblue Apr 2019 #59
I'd argue cows can be less damaging to the environment than some crops Major Nikon Apr 2019 #60
Vegans don't claim that they want to preserve all life. Mariana Apr 2019 #25
My take Cartoonist Apr 2019 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Mariana Apr 2019 #31
Do you think I'm a hypocrite, then, because I oppose cannibalism? Mariana Apr 2019 #33
Good question Cartoonist Apr 2019 #36
"Human beings are animals, handmade34 Apr 2019 #28
I don't like those that preach Cartoonist Apr 2019 #37
well handmade34 Apr 2019 #42
To the second point Lordquinton Apr 2019 #21
"responses to pain-like stimuli?" There are viruses that do that. marylandblue Apr 2019 #22
That's the issue Lordquinton Apr 2019 #56
It's more than just B12 tinrobot Apr 2019 #35
Wasn't aware of the Vitamin A thing, but for people with normal metabolisms, the point still stands. marylandblue Apr 2019 #45
Would you like to compare health statistics? Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #47
I never said they were unhealthy. tinrobot Apr 2019 #49
The study categorized both veg and vegan diets. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #50
Here's a study of the same group that inlcudes all diets tinrobot Apr 2019 #52
Such studies that don't consider other factors aren't worth much Major Nikon Apr 2019 #55
Yes. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #5
If a vegan is a cashier at a grocery store... trotsky Apr 2019 #9
Like the baker who claimed a right to not make his "artistic" cakes? guillaumeb Apr 2019 #39
Please answer my question. n/t trotsky Apr 2019 #44
Answer your question? Who do you think you're replying to? :D LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #51
LOL no kidding. trotsky Apr 2019 #62
Is it a religion? Sherman A1 Apr 2019 #8
Not a philosophical belief so no. Thyla Apr 2019 #10
The point. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2019 #13
I already give both groups the same treatment. MineralMan Apr 2019 #11
"You can't skip work just because you like a long lie-in in the morning" marylandblue Apr 2019 #14
Do you over sleep religiously? guillaumeb Apr 2019 #40
We can't even keep LGBT fully protected in most of the states in the US Major Nikon Apr 2019 #17
LOL. This may be the most ridiculous debate ever hueymahl Apr 2019 #32
yes handmade34 Apr 2019 #38
Trying to figure out who is more annoying: a street preacher or a vegan Jake Stern Apr 2019 #41
I've never encountered a vegan preaching Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #48
My experience is if you want to know if someone is vegan you don't have to interrogate them Major Nikon Apr 2019 #61
My Question: Why should I know either the religious or food consumption beliefs MineralMan Apr 2019 #46
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