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pnwmom

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52. It isn't a scientific concept and the Church doesn't pretend that it is. it's a religious concept.

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NIH Director Francis Collins on why Christians must reconcile with science [View all] guillaumeb Apr 2019 OP

"Christians must reconcile with science" trotsky Apr 2019 #1

I suggest that you read the article. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #2

I read the article. The quote is FROM the articcle. trotsky Apr 2019 #5

Are you actually alleging he didn't actually read his own OP Major Nikon Apr 2019 #28

I was gonna let it hang there for it to dawn on him. trotsky Apr 2019 #31

There is nothing anti-science about that sentence. It simply refers to things like saying pnwmom Apr 2019 #51

Logic and reason say that a man cannot be actually dead for 3 days and come back to life. trotsky Apr 2019 #53

And the Roman Catholic Church would say that statement is absolutely true. n/t pnwmom Apr 2019 #61

Then I guess your god doesn't want you to use logic and reason after all. trotsky Apr 2019 #62

It's just saying that religious belief is by definition a matter of faith -- not logic or reason. pnwmom Apr 2019 #63

OK n/t trotsky Apr 2019 #64

Most Mainline Churches Have Already Reconciled With Science IndianaDave Apr 2019 #3

Hello, Indiana Dave. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #4

Hi there, guilluameb! IndianaDave Apr 2019 #24

Not really. trotsky Apr 2019 #6

Their Teaching is that When Our Hominid Ancestors Became Highly Developed IndianaDave Apr 2019 #10

But that's not evolution. trotsky Apr 2019 #12

I respectfully Disagree IndianaDave Apr 2019 #18

It's great they teach evolution. trotsky Apr 2019 #23

Actually, they do, and I'm sorry I haven't explained it fully or clearly. IndianaDave Apr 2019 #26

They still insist that their god intervened to do something that evolution couldn't... trotsky Apr 2019 #27

This is just one of those cases where we can agree to disagree. IndianaDave Apr 2019 #32

No, I don't agree to disagree. Sorry. trotsky Apr 2019 #33

No offense taken. I still disagree with you, but I respect your right to express your convictions. IndianaDave Apr 2019 #38

Not a conviction, a fact. n/t trotsky Apr 2019 #44

That is not the teaching of all mainstream Christian denominations. MineralMan Apr 2019 #13

It isn't a scientific concept and the Church doesn't pretend that it is. it's a religious concept. pnwmom Apr 2019 #52

Yet by stating it, they admit they do not find the theory of evolution to be sufficient... trotsky Apr 2019 #54

Not true. The theory of evolution doesn't try to explain what was or what happened before pnwmom Apr 2019 #55

But this "ensoulment" thing happens long after the origin of life itself. trotsky Apr 2019 #56

The Church teaches that the soul is separate and distinct from the body, so its existence is a pnwmom Apr 2019 #57

Yes, I know what your church teaches. And it's not scientific. trotsky Apr 2019 #58

At least half of US Christians subscribe to young earth creationism Major Nikon Apr 2019 #29

Ironically, the RCC has EVOLVED in its understanding and teaching. IndianaDave Apr 2019 #36

I'm not so sure that was his point Major Nikon Apr 2019 #40

I'm not sure where to begin. I don't know for whom it would be providing "cover." IndianaDave Apr 2019 #41

You are misrepresenting the official RCC position Major Nikon Apr 2019 #42

Interestingly enough, Science does quite nicely without religion. MineralMan Apr 2019 #7

And when you find those scientifically provable answers, guillaumeb Apr 2019 #8

I don't need to, Monsieur B. MineralMan Apr 2019 #9

I don't think anyone is asking science to adapt to religion IndianaDave Apr 2019 #14

Nor did I suggest that. MineralMan Apr 2019 #16

OK. IndianaDave Apr 2019 #19

Not so much "reconcile", as "defer to", IMO Ron Obvious Apr 2019 #11

Oh, look Francis Collins. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2019 #15

While you're there, could you pray for me? MineralMan Apr 2019 #17

Turns out there's no service on Wednesday afternoon. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2019 #20

Oh, well... MineralMan Apr 2019 #21

You can't download ball gags and brownie mix, MM. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2019 #22

Amazon, Sir. I give you Amazon. MineralMan Apr 2019 #25

Same day drones. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #50

What do you mean no wednesday service? Lordquinton Apr 2019 #30

Usually, though, Wednesday Bible study is in the evening. MineralMan Apr 2019 #37

I guess I'm used to living near retirement communities Lordquinton Apr 2019 #39

Fine, you got me. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2019 #45

Careful, MineralMan. Mariana Apr 2019 #34

I'm not bothered. MineralMan Apr 2019 #35

Collins is a blasphemer; he has to go. Permanut Apr 2019 #43

Yes, there is that viewpoint. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #47

This is so much BS edhopper Apr 2019 #46

I for one am glad he's saying these things. MarvinGardens Apr 2019 #48

An excellent reply. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #49

The physicist known as the Father of the Big Bang Theory was a Roman Catholic priest. pnwmom Apr 2019 #59

Yes he was. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #65

I'm all for educating people in a non-contentious way... Girard442 Apr 2019 #60

Some do, that is true. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #66