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Voltaire2

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17. Only one of those is considered to be of

Reply to Clash City Rocker (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 04:37 PM

Apr 2019

any historical value, that would be Josephus. One of the references in the existing copies is considered to be an obvious insertion by ‘interested parties’, and the other is considered to be actually written by Josephus, but it not contemporaneous. It is as close as we have to any documentation, and it does indicate that the religion’s foundational myths were circulating in the 1st century.

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Why Are There No Contemporaneous Documents that Mention Jesus? [View all] MineralMan Apr 2019 OP

I can see how one family escaped the record keeping at that time packman Apr 2019 #1

Yeah. You'd think that the drowning of the Egyptian army MineralMan Apr 2019 #2

Embarrassments weren't recorded. Igel Apr 2019 #7

Not only did they leave Egypt without any written record... Major Nikon Apr 2019 #16

An explanation that I have heard is The Genealogist Apr 2019 #37

Same reason there's no contemporaneous accounts of Brian McGillicuddy of Pigsknuckle, Arksansas. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2019 #3

Not even a baptismal certificate or family bible entry? MineralMan Apr 2019 #4

Annoying is probably the best guess. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2019 #6

What do you mean? There are several Clash City Rocker Apr 2019 #5

Contemporaneous sources. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2019 #8

It said contemporaneous and your source is not legitimate Bradshaw3 Apr 2019 #9

Not one of those is contemporaneous. MineralMan Apr 2019 #12

Only one of those is considered to be of Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #17

Because the Devil didn't want you to know of his great achievements. 3Hotdogs Apr 2019 #10

You do have to remember that Jerusalem was destroyed exboyfil Apr 2019 #11

Oral tradition is not verifiable. MineralMan Apr 2019 #13

For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again Cartoonist Apr 2019 #14

Not a lot about Herod Antipas. Igel Apr 2019 #15

Not really a convincing scenario, for either MineralMan Apr 2019 #18

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. kwassa Apr 2019 #21

He also said edhopper Apr 2019 #22

Absence of evidence is evidence of nothing. MineralMan Apr 2019 #23

Although abscence of evidence of something where... uriel1972 Apr 2019 #24

Absence of evidence is proof of nothing else. kwassa Apr 2019 #25

Actually absense of evidence can be evidence of absense edhopper Apr 2019 #30

Um Judea was an important trade area... uriel1972 Apr 2019 #39

Perhaps not all cheap coins locally-minted under Roman authority had faces struggle4progress Apr 2019 #40

Pizza! Pizza! Pandoris Apr 2019 #19

It would mean that Cleopatra was Mary. Pandoris Apr 2019 #20

Nothin' from nothin' leaves nothin' JenniferJuniper Apr 2019 #26

Jesus is as real as Mary being a virgin at the time of his birth n/t itsrobert Apr 2019 #27

Also curious lordsummerisle Apr 2019 #28

Herods slaughter of the innocents Buzz cook Apr 2019 #29

Funny how testy some Christians get when this comes up. trotsky Apr 2019 #31

The truth has very sharp teeth and bites HARD. MineralMan Apr 2019 #32

I just find it interesting when you press for facts, you're told that it's only faith that matters. trotsky Apr 2019 #33

Grasping at straws, I think that's called. MineralMan Apr 2019 #34

Even if they find evidence, it usually doesn't prove much. Mariana Apr 2019 #35

But they haven't found any evidence of Jesus, or his Dad, either. MineralMan Apr 2019 #36

When told that... uriel1972 Apr 2019 #38