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Major Nikon

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35. No one must think that Newton's great creation can be overthrown in any real sense
Sat Apr 27, 2019, 03:01 PM
Apr 2019

... by this [Theory of Relativity] or by any other theory. His clear and wide ideas will for ever retain their significance as the foundation on which our modern conceptions of physics have been built.
-- Albert Einstein

"If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants." -- Isaac Newton

Einstein was standing on the shoulders of Newton, from which his work would never have been possible.

And no, I don't realize Aristotle believed in god. Not sure how you think you do either. If you think Aristotle believed in anything he couldn't see or reason, you don't understand Aristotle all that well. Aristotle's unmoved mover simply describes a force that set everything into motion. While it doesn't exclude a "god" neither does it describe one and it certainly bears no resemblance to any notion of a western deity who creates and intervenes. Religious belief didn't influence Aristotle. Religious belief was influenced by Aristotle.

Meanwhile as far as what you are taking about there's nothing common or universal about belief in deities. Many if not most Eastern religions do not. Many if not most religion from native people and isolated tribes do not describe deities. Belief in deities is a feature of large civilizations that needed an invisible sky daddy as a more effective means of control. There's practically zero evidence of belief in deities prior to the development of agriculture. It's actually a quite modern invention in the span of human history and certainly not universal.

Good. sandensea Apr 2019 #1
Good lord... Who is the last one? ck4829 Apr 2019 #2
Fantasy, or nightmare? guillaumeb Apr 2019 #3
That's the late, great Jan Crouch sandensea Apr 2019 #4
Looks like a drag queen. tymorial Apr 2019 #10
I think she was in competition with Tammy Faye Bakker for the "most make-up ever" award The Genealogist Apr 2019 #13
Did she get garbed in the crouch? nt tblue37 Apr 2019 #17
Needs something with crotch in it .. crouch/crotch tymorial Apr 2019 #18
Of course it is. MineralMan Apr 2019 #5
You seem confused about the relationship of evidence to religious belief. eom guillaumeb Apr 2019 #6
No, I'm not. MineralMan Apr 2019 #7
Well, given that faith needs no evidence, guillaumeb Apr 2019 #8
Discounting faith as belief in imaginary things MineralMan Apr 2019 #12
That seems like an article of faith for you. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #14
No, it is not. MineralMan Apr 2019 #15
Your assertion rests upon no foundation. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #16
No, it does not. MineralMan Apr 2019 #19
You missed the point, guillaumeb Apr 2019 #20
Sorry, but you've missed MM's point, as usual PJMcK May 2019 #51
Bingo! whathehell Apr 2019 #27
Which means that faith should always take a backseat to actual evidence. trotsky Apr 2019 #37
Again, you argue a point that has been argued many times. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #40
Argued how? trotsky Apr 2019 #41
"Confused" Major Nikon Apr 2019 #22
But you still have not defined "evidence"... TreasonousBastard Apr 2019 #21
Because there's no reason why one can't do both Major Nikon Apr 2019 #23
Actually, there is still some mystery to these universal attitudes... TreasonousBastard Apr 2019 #24
Do I really need to explain the difference between science and mythology? Major Nikon Apr 2019 #25
Not really, but we're not talking about that anyway... TreasonousBastard Apr 2019 #28
No one must think that Newton's great creation can be overthrown in any real sense Major Nikon Apr 2019 #35
Black holes were considered speculative Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #31
Black holes are an excellent example. MineralMan Apr 2019 #33
Your post makes use of equivocation on the word "belief." trotsky Apr 2019 #38
As far as I'm aware of, its a non-theistic, humanistic/overtly political society... Humanist_Activist May 2019 #49
I love it. tymorial Apr 2019 #9
I agree. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #11
CoS is a different group and has been tax exempt for years.... Humanist_Activist May 2019 #50
Only fair! Soxfan58 Apr 2019 #26
Does that mean that "religion" can open Congress with an opening prayer of no_hypocrisy Apr 2019 #29
cool! samnsara Apr 2019 #30
This is merely a judgement about its tax reporting status... IphengeniaBlumgarten Apr 2019 #32
That is true of every church that has tax exempt status. Mariana Apr 2019 #34
Interesting and Just... uriel1972 Apr 2019 #36
This is an IRS ruling. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #39
uriel1972 specifically asked for your opinion, g. trotsky Apr 2019 #42
Because that's not how sermons work Major Nikon Apr 2019 #43
At least guillaumeb makes it crystal clear to everyone why he cannot be taken seriously. trotsky Apr 2019 #44
Remove the beams, t. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #45
Ah yes, a tu quoque. trotsky Apr 2019 #47
My view is that religion takes many forms. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #46
THANK YOU FOR OFFERING YOUR OPINION! This is nice. trotsky May 2019 #48
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