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guillaumeb

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12. Classic whataboutism.

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 01:36 PM

Jun 2019

I must bookmark this for the next time you incorrectly raise that charge.

And one of us does not know what the term actually means.

I suggest that you Google the term to avoid making the mistake again.

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The secret history of Catholic caregivers and the AIDS epidemic [View all] guillaumeb Jun 2019 OP

What is the current position of the RCC on the use of condoms to prevent transmission? trotsky Jun 2019 #1

Old article. Has it changed much? Cartoonist Jun 2019 #2

So it would appear the positive examples given in the OP are people who ignored their religion... trotsky Jun 2019 #3

Did you read the bolded portion? guillaumeb Jun 2019 #9

I did indeed. trotsky Jun 2019 #11

And what did you do? guillaumeb Jun 2019 #13

Why are you reluctant to talk about the religious aspects of this topic? trotsky Jun 2019 #15

Diversion in service to your agenda. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #17

Why are you reluctant to talk about the religious aspects of this topic? trotsky Jun 2019 #20

Continued whataboutism. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #35

Why are you reluctant to talk about the religious aspects of this topic? trotsky Jun 2019 #52

Because child raping priests and the RCCs coverup needs a "counterpoint" Major Nikon Jun 2019 #23

Nailed it. n/t trotsky Jun 2019 #25

Well, I'll tell you what I did. What did YOU do? MineralMan Jun 2019 #28

May 31, 2019. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #4

Please read carefully. trotsky Jun 2019 #7

If you read the article, you know what it is about. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #5

Why are you misrepresenting my position? To control the narrative? trotsky Jun 2019 #6

You engaged in classic whataboutism. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #8

Your article is about Catholics helping AIDS patients. trotsky Jun 2019 #10

Classic whataboutism. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #12

"one of us does not know what the term actually means." trotsky Jun 2019 #14

But you do not understand it. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #16

Whataboutism is more than your cherry-picked sentence. trotsky Jun 2019 #19

Laughable. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author trotsky Jun 2019 #54

You posted about Catholics in particular helping AIDS victims. trotsky Jun 2019 #59

So do you now understand why your response guillaumeb Jun 2019 #75

Nope. Because it's not. trotsky Jun 2019 #85

Sorry for your misunderstanding. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #104

#gaslighting trotsky Jun 2019 #116

Because some people have a deeply seeded need to pretend they are a victim Major Nikon Jun 2019 #26

Ironic that you bring this up. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #29

Perhaps the numerous personal messages Gil receives Mariana Jun 2019 #45

Entirely possible. trotsky Jun 2019 #55

I wonder if he has any new material planned for this season Mariana Jun 2019 #57

Well, it appears he was finally shamed into abandoning his "choir" and "11th commandment" nonsense. trotsky Jun 2019 #58

His "choir" routine appears to be back in the rotation. Mariana Jun 2019 #60

Well damn, I spoke too soon. trotsky Jun 2019 #61

Congratualtions on being the first responder, guillaumeb Jun 2019 #46

... Mariana Jun 2019 #47

LOL! MineralMan Jun 2019 #48

More sad than laughable. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #49

... Mariana Jun 2019 #51

LOL! The choir... MineralMan Jun 2019 #62

I'm still waiting for the 11th Commandment schtick to come back around Major Nikon Jun 2019 #63

I'm still waiting for him to answer the same question he asked: MineralMan Jun 2019 #64

You just don't understand Major Nikon Jun 2019 #66

Well, M. B. has issues with his homilectics, I think. MineralMan Jun 2019 #67

"arguments"? Major Nikon Jun 2019 #70

That's entirely possible. It's easy to conflate MineralMan Jun 2019 #71

Some reduce such conflations into a low art form Major Nikon Jun 2019 #72

More of a sextet at this point. eom guillaumeb Jun 2019 #76

A sextet sings louder than a soloist. MineralMan Jun 2019 #79

But there is such harmony. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #80

Choir! Whatabout Chinese Atheists! 11th Commandment! Major Nikon Jun 2019 #50

I'm sorry you don't understand what that word means. trotsky Jun 2019 #56

Some Catholics, including some priests and nuns, did good work, yes, MineralMan Jun 2019 #18

Exactly. trotsky Jun 2019 #21

Well, perhaps Monsieur B was unaware of the church's long and MineralMan Jun 2019 #22

Why it's almost as if he just wants to control the narrative. trotsky Jun 2019 #24

Well, that trick never works out well for Monsieur B. MineralMan Jun 2019 #27

The 1/2 that is correct is outweighed by the 1/2 that is nonsense. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #34

You're not making sense, Monsieur B. MineralMan Jun 2019 #39

If you cannot understand what I said, guillaumeb Jun 2019 #42

Gil, if your posts are being misunderstood all the time Mariana Jun 2019 #43

Nonsense. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #44

The narrative you keep whining about is the one you yourself have created. trotsky Jun 2019 #69

More diversion. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #33

Good work WAS done. trotsky Jun 2019 #53

You just don't understand Major Nikon Jun 2019 #65

Finally. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #74

I never said this wasn't a good thing, g. Quit pushing your false narrative. trotsky Jun 2019 #84

Yes, by all means enable the whataboutism. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #32

Truth is my motive, Monsieur B. MineralMan Jun 2019 #38

A good one. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #41

... Major Nikon Jun 2019 #36

Your assertion is ridiculous, guillaumeb Jun 2019 #31

Oh, bother and balderdash! MineralMan Jun 2019 #37

Much better. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #40

LOL Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #68

I apologize for posting good news. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #77

... Mariana Jun 2019 #81

You shouldn't apologize for posting good news. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #83

I understand that good news about theists offends you. eom guillaumeb Jun 2019 #102

So I have learned from this edhopper Jun 2019 #73

I would say, with all respect, that you have not learned from this. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #78

Yes, imply anyone who disagrees with you is stupid or confused. trotsky Jun 2019 #86

It was "what about this" edhopper Jun 2019 #87

Oh dear. trotsky Jun 2019 #96

Always have been edhopper Jun 2019 #100

It is diversion and whataboutism to attemtp to divert, guillaumeb Jun 2019 #105

Nope, edhopper Jun 2019 #108

Your last point is diversion from the actual topic. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #109

It seems to be about CATHOLICS and AIDS edhopper Jun 2019 #110

Catholics are a subset of theists. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #111

So is the subset of theists who shunned and excluded MineralMan Jun 2019 #112

So it is about Catholics and AIDS edhopper Jun 2019 #113

I think this is the kind of dialog Gil would like to see here: Mariana Jun 2019 #114

Which is also a subset of catholics, who ignored, or campaiged against tools that would limit AIDS AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #117

A short Democratic Underground play. AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #101

The most prolific whatabouter keeps pointing the whatabout finger Major Nikon Jun 2019 #82

I have a question about the article. Why is the history "secret"? trotsky Jun 2019 #88

Oh, good question... MineralMan Jun 2019 #89

Bzzzt. trotsky Jun 2019 #95

So, some individuals defied their official church position on an issue and did some nice work AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #90

Yes. Exactly. MineralMan Jun 2019 #91

It is my personal belief that the RCC is quite fine with people being poor, and in dire straits AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #92

I suppose it depends on what level of the hierarchy you're talking about. MineralMan Jun 2019 #93

Oh absolutely. AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #94

Just take a look at Mother Teresa's operation. trotsky Jun 2019 #97

She praised the suffering OTHER people endured. Mariana Jun 2019 #98

Well c'mon now. trotsky Jun 2019 #99

Man, that article is a white wash Lordquinton Jun 2019 #103

Was the article untrue? eom guillaumeb Jun 2019 #106

Was I incorrect in anything I said? Lordquinton Jun 2019 #107

Was I incorrect in anything I said? Lordquinton Jun 2019 #115

You've had a long time to think about it, Was I incorrect in anything I said? Lordquinton Jun 2019 #118