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In reply to the discussion: We do not have free will. [View all]Voltaire2
(14,632 posts)70. except that when neurologists go looking for this alleged 'conscious control' what they find instead
is 'unconscious control' followed by 'conscious narrative'.
In a study just published in Psychological Science, Paul Bloom and I explore a radicalbut non-magicalsolution to this puzzle. Perhaps in the very moments that we experience a choice, our minds are rewriting history, fooling us into thinking that this choicethat was actually completed after its consequences were subconsciously perceivedwas a choice that we had made all along.
Though the precise way in which the mind could do this is still not fully understood, similar phenomena have been documented elsewhere. For example, we see the apparent motion of a dot before seeing that dot reach its destination, and we feel phantom touches moving up our arm before feeling an actual touch further up our arm. Postdictive illusions of this sort are typically explained by noting that theres a delay in the time it takes information out in the world to reach conscious awareness: Because it lags slightly behind reality, consciousness can anticipate future events that havent yet entered awareness, but have been encoded subconsciously, allowing for an illusion in which the experienced future alters the experienced past.
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/mind-guest-blog/what-neuroscience-says-about-free-will/
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except this atheist who thinks 'free will' is an entirely dubious concept in a material universe.
Voltaire2
Aug 2019
#18
That's only in the context of actions studied. You are suggesting a much broader interpretation.
trotsky
Aug 2019
#45
You're writing a lot of words to try and distract from the fact that you want it both ways.
trotsky
Aug 2019
#56
No, it doesn't. It introduces conscious control into the search and deliberation processes.
Jim__
Aug 2019
#69
except that when neurologists go looking for this alleged 'conscious control' what they find instead
Voltaire2
Aug 2019
#70
From your citation: "The illusion may only apply to a small set of our choices ..."
Jim__
Aug 2019
#71
yeah because of the limitations of the investigative tools (fMRI) only simple experiments can be
Voltaire2
Aug 2019
#72
The limitations of the investigative tools constitute limitations on what you can learn ...
Jim__
Aug 2019
#73
I was taught that in Ctholic school. I never believed it. It was made up. When ever something
wasupaloopa
Aug 2019
#52
So you are not responcible for your actions since you did not use your free will to choose to do
wasupaloopa
Aug 2019
#51