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106. They were aware of the ordinance.

Sat May 13, 2023, 06:35 PM

May 2023

Last edited Sat May 13, 2023, 08:32 PM - Edit history (3)

It was all clearly stated in the OP from the beginning, despite implications earlier in the thread that they probably weren't aware of the ordinance.

The god botherers aren't required to have a solicitor's license, but they still must otherwise comply with the other provisions and the law specifically spells out the god botherers as those who have to comply. ... the god botherers got no exemption and were specifically included in the ordinance. You don't have to be engaged in direct sales to be defined as a "solicitor". Anyone who hands out pamphlets or other literature is included.

After the ordinance was passed, and I put up the compliant sign, ... To their credit, the god botherers are generally pretty good at reading and complying with the law, so in the past 15 years I have had not one god botherer ring my bell. ...

so many other god botherers understood it apparently.

... These church ladies claimed they were complying with the law since they didn't have to have a solicitor's license. I told them they didn't read the rest of it and I made them the same deal I make everyone who makes the mistake of ringing my doorbell. I told them they have two choices. They can leave my neighborhood and not come back. Or they can argue their case with the police and the judge.

He gave them ample fair warning, both with the sign about the ordinance, and the above.

They left and off to my neighbor's house they went as they evidently thought only their imaginary friend's laws applied to them. I called the cops. To their credit they were there in just a few minutes. I don't know if they were cited, but they did leave the neighborhood after their interaction with the police.

We're supposed to be dismayed by that, I guess.

There is no indication in the OP that they were arrested, but we had that implication too earlier in this thread.

Edited to remove a screen name of a participant in this thread and references to specific posts, even though referring to others' posts in the same thread is very common practice. Ultimately I decided the history wasn't important.

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Called the cops on a couple of god botherers today [View all] Major Nikon Apr 2023 OP

Why not just not answer the door? hlthe2b Apr 2023 #1

Because I'm not clairvoyant Major Nikon Apr 2023 #4

Peephole? Doorbell camera? Windows? The first has worked for me for decades... hlthe2b Apr 2023 #15

You keep assuming I can somehow magically know their intentions Major Nikon Apr 2023 #21

Funny. I don't have a problem telling elderly women carrying bibles from delivery people. hlthe2b Apr 2023 #26

They weren't carrying bibles and they did claim to have read the ordinance Major Nikon Apr 2023 #45

They all must be losing their congregations! slightlv Apr 2023 #66

I hadn't noticed they were ever anything else Major Nikon Apr 2023 #70

I used to get them quite often in KcK slightlv Apr 2023 #83

It's nice that you think these women are no more informed than children Orrex May 2023 #101

I don't have a problem distinguishing a minor nuisance from a threat, that's for damned sure. hlthe2b May 2023 #102

No, you're appealing to base emotionalism Orrex May 2023 #103

Tolerance includes emotionalism so I'm glad you noticed. hlthe2b May 2023 #104

How about a little kindness, tolerance, understanding for those being awakened progree May 2023 #105

Your post says everything that I don't really think you want others to think about you. hlthe2b May 2023 #108

Come on--that's an obvious red herring Orrex May 2023 #107

Not at all. In the past all of DU sought to be tolerant of others, irrespective of religion. hlthe2b May 2023 #109

The core issue is not their religion, but that they are going door to door bothering a lot of progree May 2023 #111

No shit. Orrex May 2023 #112

They were aware of the ordinance. progree May 2023 #106

Just a hint. Calling others out by name hlthe2b May 2023 #110

LOL Orrex May 2023 #113

You seem angry. hlthe2b May 2023 #114

LOL. That's a tactic of deflection. Orrex May 2023 #115

Not at all. I see those whose health is severely impacted by anger and overreaction to even minor hlthe2b May 2023 #116

I'm not angry, so spare me your presumptuous lecture and your false concern Orrex May 2023 #117

Your words and (over)reaction say otherwise. I'm sorry you are so upset. hlthe2b May 2023 #118

You're projecting Orrex May 2023 #119

That accusation doesn't even make sense. I think you know that. hlthe2b May 2023 #120

That's simply false. Who are you trying to convince? Orrex May 2023 #121

I hope you take some time to self-reflect. hlthe2b May 2023 #122

I will enjoy my Sunday regardless of your wishes. Why is it so important for you that I be angry? Orrex May 2023 #123

It's almost impossible they would be arrested Major Nikon May 2023 #124

Did you miss the part about some people work shifts and sleep during the day??????? progree Apr 2023 #23

I work nights/ER shifts thank you very much so, next? hlthe2b Apr 2023 #27

Read my post again - I added to it progree Apr 2023 #28

Oh so now I get added to the list because I don't want to see old ladies arrested just for hlthe2b Apr 2023 #30

Blah blah blah. Yes I pick my battles. You ought to hear me screaming at someone progree Apr 2023 #37

ROFL hlthe2b Apr 2023 #39

What a joke progree Apr 2023 #43

I thought I was on your list! Oh my! hlthe2b Apr 2023 #46

Yes you are. Getting close to number 1 ranked. progree Apr 2023 #48

THank you. I have no problem being on your list--whatever that means. hlthe2b Apr 2023 #51

I couldn't post here what the title of the list is. progree Apr 2023 #54

I'm sure we'd all like to know. hlthe2b Apr 2023 #55

I told you at least 3 times progree Apr 2023 #63

Provide healthcare in the ER. hlthe2b Apr 2023 #64

Telemarketers and door to door solicitors are not being kind and compassionate progree Apr 2023 #67

We aren't talking salespeople. They are obviously covered under "No Solicitation" hlthe2b Apr 2023 #68

You didn't read the OP, did you? They gave him some backtalk when he explained the ordinance progree Apr 2023 #72

I apparently annoyed you severely with my suggestion of some modicum of tolerance by ignoring them hlthe2b Apr 2023 #74

I explained to you a thousand times now how just ignoring bozos progree Apr 2023 #80

Asked/answered repeatedly. Good night. hlthe2b Apr 2023 #81

wow, you just don't give up do you? Lunabell Apr 2023 #31

I've not engaged with you even once, so you must be confused (nor will I again) hlthe2b Apr 2023 #32

oh, I'm not confused. Lunabell Apr 2023 #33

I'm glad for you. Good to hear. hlthe2b Apr 2023 #35

Bingo! paleotn Apr 2023 #40

Why on earth does this bother you so much? paleotn Apr 2023 #38

No. I said I would ignore them. It is you and a few others who are apparently worked up. hlthe2b Apr 2023 #41

But you keep going on and on and on and on and on and on.... paleotn Apr 2023 #44

Merely responding to the comments. hlthe2b Apr 2023 #57

Aren't people responding to you in this thread Javaman Apr 2023 #62

THis is a discussion thread. Not a front door. The purpose is to discuss. hlthe2b Apr 2023 #65

How about a little tolerance towards those who do not want to be bothered in mass progree Apr 2023 #69

I don't want to be bothered either and apparently you missed the part where I work shifts too. hlthe2b Apr 2023 #71

Yes I acknowledged now a jillion times -- progree Apr 2023 #75

That your buttons are pushed so easily by any/ all suggestion of an alternate more tolerant approach hlthe2b Apr 2023 #77

All points answered repeatedly and explained to you fully. You seem to have some pretty progree Apr 2023 #82

Thank you for proving my point Javaman Apr 2023 #87

Apparently you had no point. Discussion boards are for discussing even if you disagree hlthe2b Apr 2023 #89

I think I have a shovel here some where Javaman Apr 2023 #90

I always appreciate someone that cleans up after themselves, so good on you. Your Mom must be hlthe2b Apr 2023 #91

It's become glaringly apparent that you must have the last word Javaman Apr 2023 #94

Yet, it was you who posted and will likely again. Good heavens. hlthe2b Apr 2023 #95

Shift worker 3auld6phart Apr 2023 #49

As am I. hlthe2b Apr 2023 #52

So your position is everyone should be more like you. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2023 #93

Not at all. Merely asking why that is not the more ready alternative. hlthe2b May 2023 #99

There's an ordinance against it, no doubt passed with popular support. And he had a sign on progree May 2023 #100

what about people are who are leaving candidate literature without knocking (door hangers) TomDaisy Apr 2023 #2

if I couldn't leave literature for our candidates that would be a real problem TomDaisy Apr 2023 #3

Unfortunately that's not covered by the law Major Nikon Apr 2023 #5

Is there any situation where you would not object to someone someone you don't recognize enough Apr 2023 #6

They aren't breaking the law, so no I don't have a problem with them Major Nikon Apr 2023 #10

Have you ever noticed that those who want to share their religion with you do not want to share your keithbvadu2 Apr 2023 #7

I generally don't engage Major Nikon Apr 2023 #9

That's my standard response. I tell them I am busy right now but if they give me their home address Midnight Writer Apr 2023 #12

That's a Rebl2 Apr 2023 #14

A Number One! keithbvadu2 Apr 2023 #16

That's good. paleotn Apr 2023 #42

I tell them they are welcome to come in and shoot the shit... aka-chmeee Apr 2023 #47

wish it can apply to the phone scammers . AllaN01Bear Apr 2023 #8

I just throw molten tar on them, the word gets around. Chainfire Apr 2023 #11

Usually I don't bear any ill will towards them Major Nikon Apr 2023 #13

I generally tell them I'm not interested because I'm a satanist. They scurry off quickly RKP5637 Apr 2023 #17

🤣🤣🤣 Chicagogrl1 Apr 2023 #20

You're a keeper, MN. Thanks for your contribution to the betterment of society. littlemissmartypants Apr 2023 #18

I didn't come up with it Major Nikon Apr 2023 #22

I've heard it from Hitchens. Did he invent it, I wonder? Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2023 #86

I love the reciprocal intolerance demonstrated dickthegrouch Apr 2023 #19

... Major Nikon Apr 2023 #29

Thank you /nt dickthegrouch Apr 2023 #59

I yelled at a couple of them the other day dickthegrouch Apr 2023 #24

I worked nights for 30 years. multigraincracker Apr 2023 #25

I don't work nights anymore although I did for many years Major Nikon Apr 2023 #73

I just tell them that Ra relayerbob Apr 2023 #34

Sir, if you'll pardon the language, God bless you. soldierant Apr 2023 #36

I'm fortunate enough to have neighbors that look out for each other Major Nikon Apr 2023 #55

Years ago, when I was in college, some "god botherers" rsdsharp Apr 2023 #50

I once told a couple of JW's that I worship Satan. paleotn Apr 2023 #53

That works sometimes Major Nikon Apr 2023 #61

One positive from calling the police SouthernDem4ever Apr 2023 #78

That's the idea Major Nikon May 2023 #96

That is true. With those two, I don't think that was the usual response they'd been getting paleotn Apr 2023 #92

It's easy to see how they were burning people alive relatively speaking not that long ago Major Nikon May 2023 #97

Their followers don't get they are following authoritarians bent on cancelling their rights SouthernDem4ever May 2023 #98

But you don't know who they are unless you answer. I used to... TreasonousBastard Apr 2023 #58

I have not had a problem. usonian Apr 2023 #60

ROFL SouthernDem4ever Apr 2023 #76

Had I lived in that neighborhood and I heard about it rpannier Apr 2023 #79

a simple "no thank you" has always worked for me Skittles Apr 2023 #84

You should learn to read between the lines Major Nikon Apr 2023 #88

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2023 #125

i have zero tolerance for solicitors moonshinegnomie Apr 2023 #85