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soldierant

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6. In Scene 2 of George Bernard Shaw's "Saint Joan"

Reply to SarahD (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2024, 10:16 PM

May 2024

there is an exchange between the Archbishop and LeTremouille (a high ranking soldier) about what a miracle is which is IMO well worth reading (or re-reading), regardless which side you personally are on.

(snip)

LA TRÉMOUILLE. Even when they are frauds, do you mean?

THE ARCHBISHOP. Frauds deceive. An event which creates faith does not deceive: therefore it is not a fraud, but a miracle.

LA TRÉMOUILLE [scratching his neck in his perplexity] Well, I suppose as you are an archbishop you must be right. It seems a bit fishy to me. But I am no churchman, and dont understand these matters.

(snip)

And the Archbishop's argument actually gets even stronger from there.

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In Scene 2 of George Bernard Shaw's "Saint Joan" soldierant May 2024 #6