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sweetloukillbot

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16. I was raised Lutheran - my mother is even a Diaconal minister
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 01:05 AM
Jan 2012

Very liberal progressive church background but my wife and I have always loved high church liturgy and found contemporary services with rock bands to be annoying. And the Lutheran churches in my area have been moving in that direction for years. We started attending the local Episcopal Cathedral and immediately fell in love.
High church, sung liturgy, "bells and smells". I immediately fell in love with the preaching - the Dean is an astrophysicist and introduces interesting takes on science into his sermons. The other priest is a gay New Zealander by way of the Anglican church and he is almost the opposite - coming as close to denying the resurrection as you can within the church. He is also a trained psychologist and the best counselor I've ever met with - he helped me through some tough times when I was unemployed a couple years ago. And he summed up my problem with the Lutheran church perfectly "Too much happy-clappy."
The congregation is mostly cast-offs from other denominations - a lot of Catholics and Presbyterians and especially a lot of gays. The choir is phenomenal - many members are from the Phoenix Chorale - which has multiple Grammy awards - the church has an art gallery and sponsors local artists for first Friday artwalks. The community has a large 20-40 year-old contingency and an active Spanish community that apparently joined our church when Sheriff Joe started nosing around outside their old house of worship. We work heavily with the homeless in Phoenix, are active in immigrant rights issues in Phoenix and do a lot of work on the border as well.
I still miss some of the Lutheran things of my childhood - the hymns have different melodies and the Christmas carols have different verses (not to mention some hymn "Once in Royal David's City" that I'd never heard until Christmas 3 years ago when we joined) - but I can honestly say I've never felt more at home in a church than I do now - and I"ve never felt the urge to give more than I can to a church like I do now.

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We'll be glad to have you Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2011 #1
Thanks, I appreciate the welcome, arely staircase Dec 2011 #3
Welcome to the fold! markpkessinger Dec 2011 #2
That's all encouraging, especally this part: arely staircase Dec 2011 #4
She's actually called the Presiding Bishop--there are only two Archbishops, and they're both in Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2011 #5
Thanks arely staircase Dec 2011 #6
Yes, the Episcopalians have their own terminology for things Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2011 #7
This isn't quite the case . . . markpkessinger Jan 2012 #14
Sorry, you're right Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2012 #15
True, because... regnaD kciN Feb 2012 #38
Thanks for the history lesson! xmas74 Feb 2012 #39
Congratulations, glad you found somewhere that works ButterflyBlood Dec 2011 #8
"...a liberal-leaning charismatic evangelical church, yes they exist" arely staircase Dec 2011 #11
Yep, getting dunked ButterflyBlood Jan 2012 #13
episcopalians beachguy Dec 2011 #9
thank you arely staircase Dec 2011 #10
your new church needs you beachguy Dec 2011 #12
I was raised Lutheran - my mother is even a Diaconal minister sweetloukillbot Jan 2012 #16
"Too happy-clappy"--great Brit expression Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2012 #17
That might be true, but pretty close to all people at my current church are converts ButterflyBlood Jan 2012 #19
We've got a chunk of cradle Episcopalians sweetloukillbot Jan 2012 #25
Ha ha, if you can't stand the contemporary Lutheran services I know you won't like my church ;) ButterflyBlood Jan 2012 #18
There's a place for that... sweetloukillbot Jan 2012 #24
I missed that show xmas74 Feb 2012 #37
That sounds like a really cool church. arely staircase Jan 2012 #20
That's not true about all contemporary service music, though perhaps most ButterflyBlood Jan 2012 #21
i thought about that after i posted - i'm sure there is everything under the sun arely staircase Jan 2012 #22
Hey no problem ButterflyBlood Jan 2012 #23
actually, i still very much like to listen to a jimmy swaggart "show" arely staircase Jan 2012 #30
A lot of my aversion to praise bands comes from my previous church's pastor. sweetloukillbot Jan 2012 #26
So apparentely even pastors do LSD! ButterflyBlood Jan 2012 #28
He was actually a really good preacher for quite a while... sweetloukillbot Jan 2012 #29
Speaking of Country Club Republicans at liberal churches sweetloukillbot Jan 2012 #27
this is another subject, but i must say the gop gets more fanatical with each generation arely staircase Jan 2012 #31
George H. W. is an Episcopalian. kwassa Jan 2012 #32
i know. that is what i was saying, though not well - as i reread my post arely staircase Jan 2012 #33
He used to prefer the Roman Catholic bishop of Washington DC to Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2012 #34
DC has had a long line of very liberal Episcopal bishops. kwassa Jan 2012 #35
I went to my first Episcopal service yesterday 47of74 Feb 2012 #36
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