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NNadir

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1. As it's so dire, it's not amusing to see an antinuke quoting the two most pronuclear climate scientists in the world.
Fri Feb 21, 2025, 03:52 AM
Feb 2025

There's an almost Trumpian aspect to it: Fuck around and find out. It applies to antinukes as much as it applies to Maggots.

Their seminal paper on the subject of energy was published over a decade ago:

Prevented Mortality and Greenhouse Gas Emissions from Historical and Projected Nuclear Power (Pushker A. Kharecha* and James E. Hansen Environ. Sci. Technol., 2013, 47 (9), pp 4889–4895)

They never stepped back from their advocacy, because, um, they were and are right.

Of course, we've had a lot of people here screaming for the industrialization of wilderness for solar and wind crap that did nothing to address the destruction of the planetary atmosphere that supported that wilderness and everything else on the planet.

These people ran around insipidly screaming like the bourgeois brats they are, bourgeois brats indifferent to the needs of future generations, that nuclear energy was "too expensive," but the destruction of the planetary atmosphere was not "too expensive."

Some of us need to stop whining about the outcome and look in the mirror.

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As it's so dire, it's not amusing to see an antinuke quoting the two most pronuclear climate scientists in the world. NNadir Feb 2025 #1
I'm not "antinuke." OKIsItJustMe Feb 2025 #2
In my position, I hear a lot from people who tell me they're not antinukes who nevertheless drag out every idiotic... NNadir Feb 2025 #3
Simple questions OKIsItJustMe Feb 2025 #4
Spoken like a true "I'm not an antinuke" antinuke. QED. One might ask how long it will take the useless solar.... NNadir Feb 2025 #5
Who are you arguing with? OKIsItJustMe Feb 2025 #6
To your point around destruction of wilderness Pull_Left Feb 2025 #9
The first commercial nuclear reactor in the US was... NNadir Feb 2025 #10
Really appreciate the detailed response Pull_Left Feb 2025 #13
Let's not pretend that solar farms can only be built in the wilderness OKIsItJustMe Feb 2025 #11
Absolutely agree! Pull_Left Feb 2025 #12
Wherever and whenever they are built they will represent an unconcionable waste.. NNadir Feb 2025 #14
None of this is relevant to the OP OKIsItJustMe Feb 2025 #17
I certainly am very familiar with Jim Hansen and Pushkar Kharecha's work. I must have linked their highly cited... NNadir Mar 2025 #18
I should know better OKIsItJustMe Mar 2025 #19
Great post! Thanks for posting. Jim__ Feb 2025 #7
You're welcome OKIsItJustMe Feb 2025 #8
We can of course consider whether an appreciation of science... NNadir Feb 2025 #15
I have worked with several scientists, some of them I call friends. OKIsItJustMe Feb 2025 #16
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