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Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 07:51 PM Nov 2014

Welcome to the Atheists & Agnostics Group (New set of rules) [View all]

This discussion thread is pinned.

1. Initial caveat: while the Atheists & Agnostics group is a safe-haven with its own set of guidelines, everyone posting in A&A is subject to DU rules and the DU jury system. And although they should, jurors won't necessarily know that A&A is a safe haven, and may not respect the boundaries set up to govern posts in A&A. Anytime you post in A&A you take the chance that an outsider alerts on the post, no matter how acceptable the content is to the atheists and agnostics here at DU. If you'd like frank conversation about religion without the restrictions placed on us by potential religious alerts, we have several external chat groups in which you may participate. Contact a group host for more information.

2. Discussing a DUer's private information, whether an A&A regular, a religious believer, or members blocked from A&A, is STRICTLY prohibited. (Note that an exception can be made if the DUer brought the topic up themselves and you keep your comments limited to the thread in which the DUer posted the private information).

3. Discussing the Religion group, even if not explicitly named, is discouraged. The A&A hosts feel the Religion group is so toxic that our recommendation is to trash the group completely. If a thread posted in A&A references the Religion group, the hosts reserve the right to lock the post. If you find that the Religion group makes you angry every time you go there, stop spending time there and spend more in A&A. Discussion of or mentioning Interfaith or any other Group is strongly discouraged. We all hope that DUers will respect our safe haven and the expectation is that other safe havens will be respected here.

4. The hosts want to discourage negativity and encourage the promotion of the positive aspects of non-belief. If you read a good thread in A&A, rec it. If you encounter an atheist or agnostic in other areas of DU that you don't see in A&A, invite them over.

5. There are certain terms that are considered offensive to the members of the A&A group. If you use these terms or insinuate them, you'll be asked to self-edit. If you decline a self-edit, you will be blocked from the A&A group. A few of these terms are: "fundamentalist atheist"; "evangelical atheist"; "scientism"; "atheist dogma"; "secular indoctrination"; etc. Also if you like to refer to atheism or agnosticism as a "religion", don't.

6. As a Progressive community, we don't tolerate conservative viewpoints. Expressing those viewpoints is likely to get you blocked from A&A and eventually kicked off DU.

7. If you make A&A suck, you risk being blocked.

8. While as Progressives, we're pretty tolerant, we're not tolerant of religion apologists.

9. Posters that take A&A meta to other DU groups may find themselves blocked from A&A. If you have an issue with an A&A member, work it out with them directly or contact the hosts. If you have an issue with a believer you are urged to put them on ignore.

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Information about this OP Goblinmonger Nov 2014 #1
Well, this is a surprise. Curmudgeoness Nov 2014 #2
Thanks Goblin Gelliebeans Nov 2014 #3
Sorry, but I disagree completely with #3 skepticscott Nov 2014 #4
Things they say about atheists AlbertCat Nov 2014 #6
I agree about #3. It is not needed and sounds like capitulation. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #8
The Religion group is toxic Goblinmonger Nov 2014 #10
Sure, the Religion Group can be toxic skepticscott Nov 2014 #22
My thoughts LostOne4Ever Nov 2014 #5
Regarding #2 kdmorris Nov 2014 #7
I don't come here to read about the religion forum. JNelson6563 Nov 2014 #9
Great Point! (nt) LostOne4Ever Nov 2014 #17
It inevitability results in mud-pit quality discussion AlbertCat Nov 2014 #20
Then discuss those public attitudes. Goblinmonger Nov 2014 #26
I agree with skeptiscott about #3 mr blur Nov 2014 #11
This is me speaking for my own opinions as a host. Goblinmonger Nov 2014 #12
Thank you; you're right of course. mr blur Nov 2014 #14
Thank makes a lot of sense LostOne4Ever Nov 2014 #18
Some additional explanation from a host regarding #3 EvolveOrConvolve Nov 2014 #13
Appreciate all you say. Thanks. mr blur Nov 2014 #15
Thanks for the explanation LostOne4Ever Nov 2014 #19
As hosts, we believe there is literally ZERO value in the Religion group. AlbertCat Nov 2014 #21
"Literally" zero value? Sorry, but no skepticscott Nov 2014 #23
I get that, too. And I do it. Goblinmonger Nov 2014 #27
Well there is a difference between saying skepticscott Nov 2014 #28
I don't think I have anything to reconcile. Goblinmonger Nov 2014 #29
Well, there is the direct contradiction skepticscott Nov 2014 #33
I appreciate the new rules and the work that must have gone into them. Rainforestgoddess Nov 2014 #16
Sorry but a couple of quick questions LostOne4Ever Nov 2014 #24
Answers EvolveOrConvolve Nov 2014 #25
Well, in that case...(Re:Your Answer #1)... Iggo Nov 2014 #41
Possible adaptation to Rule 3 Goblinmonger Nov 2014 #30
Good idea, but mr blur Nov 2014 #31
That sounds like a good idea LostOne4Ever Nov 2014 #32
I giggled a little at "Focus on the Fundy" EvolveOrConvolve Nov 2014 #35
Kind of like this? trotsky Nov 2014 #34
FWIW, I really like this idea (as both an A&A regular and as a host) EvolveOrConvolve Nov 2014 #36
I've had the Religion group trashed for a couple of days, and it's actually refreshing EvolveOrConvolve Nov 2014 #37
AND my blood sugar is under better control kdmorris Nov 2014 #39
As indicated in the OP, I will be locking this sometime tonight or tomorrow. Goblinmonger Nov 2014 #38
Um...wha? Iggo Nov 2014 #40
Our hope is that A/A does not act as a Meta-Religion forum. Goblinmonger Nov 2014 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author Iggo Nov 2014 #43
I've just now read this post RussBLib Dec 2014 #44
"If you have an issue with a believer you are urged to put them on ignore." Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #45
I find #1 disheartening Genki Hikari Sep 2022 #46
They aren't mysterious ... marble falls Sep 2022 #47
Thank's Y'all! Here's To Reason's Rule!!! MayReasonRule Nov 2 #48
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