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Binkie The Clown

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16. "rational discourse" about

Reply to wryter2000 (Reply #11)

Sat Apr 25, 2015, 06:27 PM

Apr 2015

the nature, powers, abilities, temperament, inclinations, desires and wishes of ~~the magical sky daddy~~ god? Of course. Discourse away. What is it about god that makes "him" god if he can't/won't care about people's lives?

"One presumes the people praying are also helping" I believe your presumption may be incorrect. I know many "religious" people who pray instead of helping, figuring that by doing so they have soothed their conscience and/or fulfilled their obligation.

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I bit my tongue on that, too. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #1

The whole concept of prayer bvf Apr 2015 #2

Useless feel good-ism Rob H. Apr 2015 #3

+1,000,000 Auggie Apr 2015 #4

And rec bait Doctor_J Apr 2015 #41

#takeadeepbreath Lordquinton Apr 2015 #5

God works in mysterious ways. AlbertCat Apr 2015 #55

I am hoping that was sarcasm.. truebrit71 Apr 2015 #70

It's hard to tell sometimes Lordquinton Apr 2015 #80

I had the same thought. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #6

They believe they have magical powers ... PassingFair Apr 2015 #7

The fact that really amazes me is... Binkie The Clown Apr 2015 #14

Hoo boy, I'm glad to find this group Novara Apr 2015 #8

Not a problem here... Thespian2 Apr 2015 #9

Welcome welcome welcome Novara! beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #10

Welcome to A&A. Curmudgeoness Apr 2015 #27

Welcome. That's why we're all here. mountain grammy Apr 2015 #64

You guys are the cool kids. Novara Apr 2015 #65

I tend to agree. mountain grammy Apr 2015 #66

One presumes the people praying are also helping wryter2000 Apr 2015 #11

You know the op came in here to get away from people like you. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #15

"rational discourse" about Binkie The Clown Apr 2015 #16

"One presumes the people praying are also helping" bvf Apr 2015 #17

Oh, you have wandered down the wrong dark alley, my friend. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #20

Are also helping FOR REAL, you mean? Iggo Apr 2015 #24

Obviously it makes one feel as if one bvf Apr 2015 #31

This is a safe haven for atheists and agnostics. Curmudgeoness Apr 2015 #30

Well one is wrong. mr blur Apr 2015 #35

Only in a believer's world EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2015 #39

In other words, god only causes good shit skepticscott Apr 2015 #46

I don't expect any rational discoursse LostOne4Ever Apr 2015 #59

Thanks for the welcomes Novara Apr 2015 #12

I'm an agnostic atheist. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #18

Well, remember that the Blessed Hillary's favourite book mr blur Apr 2015 #36

They all have to say that. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #56

The seperation of church and state? Stryst Apr 2015 #25

Welcome aboard... NeoGreen Apr 2015 #37

That IS helpful, thanks! Novara Apr 2015 #38

'Pray' or not, elleng Apr 2015 #13

Prayer doesnt do shit. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #19

It is "uplifting", in the case of an earthquake, and a "warm embrace" for volcanoes. Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #21

"Prayer: your little way of telling God His plan is wrong." riqster Apr 2015 #22

Prayer: The next worst thing to doing nothing Major Nikon Apr 2015 #23

In a study of the effectiveness of prayer there was a slight negative outcome correlation Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #26

I suppose there's something to be said about the negative impact of false hope Major Nikon Apr 2015 #28

The Templeton Foundation, not liking the results from their study, Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #29

I'm sure they weren't. Novara Apr 2015 #33

Oh, but we'll always have the usual suspects over in Religion skepticscott Apr 2015 #47

"Sending good thoughts and vibes" has the same psychological benefit, I'll bet Novara Apr 2015 #49

Yeah, I never understood the "good vibes" request skepticscott Apr 2015 #51

It's no different than praying Novara Apr 2015 #53

Certainly if the person being "vibed" to skepticscott Apr 2015 #54

"prayer is as much for the one praying as the one being prayed for" Major Nikon Apr 2015 #50

If it were voiced with the explicit acknowledgement skepticscott Apr 2015 #52

I'm certainly hoping that the US sends aid, experts and equipment Rhiannon12866 Apr 2015 #32

WTF!? mr blur Apr 2015 #34

Couldn't help myself... EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2015 #40

How come this overtly-religious OP was allowed in GD? mr blur Apr 2015 #42

Maybe all 30 hosts have been offline the entire time Rob H. Apr 2015 #43

No no no, you have it wrong. Posts CRITICAL of religion aren't allowed in GD. Positive Religion Heddi Apr 2015 #44

Oh, right. Sorry. I forgot about religious privilege, mr blur Apr 2015 #45

ALso, if you DO pray, bvar22 Apr 2015 #48

I get that they mean it as a platitude of sympathy LostOne4Ever Apr 2015 #57

So what have you done? Leontius Apr 2015 #58

What have YOU done? EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2015 #60

Oh, look, it's the compassionate christian who called atheists "childish pricks" beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #61

Yes, why the fuck he's still here is a mystery skepticscott Apr 2015 #62

It's just a layover on his way to Heaven. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #63

Yup...some get blocked after one post.. truebrit71 Apr 2015 #69

They'll even threaten to block people based at least in part Rob H. Apr 2015 #73

I'm baited by his mere presence. nt. Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #77

I interrupted a long-anticipated family vacation AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #67

sent money to nil desperandum Apr 2015 #68

Better yet, don't wait for a media-highlighted disaster skepticscott Apr 2015 #71

Excellent Point nil desperandum Apr 2015 #74

I certainly didn't mean that there's anything WRONG skepticscott Apr 2015 #75

No worries nil desperandum Apr 2015 #76

Are you here for legitimate dicussion? Goblinmonger Apr 2015 #72

I'm guessing, based on the sentiment expressed Rob H. Apr 2015 #79

Wasn't there some discussion that atheists donate differently to charity than christians? Novara Apr 2015 #78