Atheists & Agnostics
In reply to the discussion: Can we "know" God doesn't exist. [View all]Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)The problem is that the believers cannot propose a tangible definition of this god thing, in particular how it interacts with the physical universe. If the alleged deities do not interact it is as interesting a question as "does Harry Potter exist". If they do interact then we could then possibly prove the existence of gods by observing interactions that could only be explained by god. On the other hand if all of those classes of interactions can be demonstrated to be caused by other factors, if all the testable claims of "only gods do this" are falsified by providing other explanations, the best explanation of that is that there are no gods, as adding "god did it" when other simpler explanations are fully explanatory is superfluous.
Thus the hiding out in the gaps of the god-promoters, desperately hoping that they can continue to assert that their master of the universe must surely be the answer for some unknown aspect of the universe or other. Ultimately it is a dishonest game. The gods that were claimed to exist before the enlightenment destroyed the ancient cosmology were the ever-present deities of this planet, this planet was the center of a very small universe, a shell around the planet itself, and the gods managed the affairs of the world. The events that occurred on this planet were the handiwork of these gods. That world view died, well it is still dying (not quite dead yet) - it lingers on for example in creationism, in animist religions, but it is intellectually dead in the modern world.
The religious apologists have been busy for the last 500 years or so inventing ever more convoluted and dishonest arguments for why their dumb dead gods could continue to exist, and we are stuck with the exasperating task of having to admit that yes, we cannot prove absolutely that your easter bunny doesn't exist, but as proposing it does explains nothing and serves no value and hinders wider comprehension of the ever expanding reality of what we do know about the universe, it would be best for all if you would stop already with the bullshit. It isn't helping.