Atheists & Agnostics
In reply to the discussion: Can we "know" God doesn't exist. [View all]AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Indeed....if so how does he effect change or anything IN the universe?
And if there was magic or god and stuff like that, it would mean you could circumnavigate the laws of physics. The bread and wine CAN turn into the body of Christ. But to do so it must have or acquire the correct atoms and molecules and they must be put together in a certain way to become whatever part of some homo sapien with the DNA of Christ (His liver? His skin? His calf muscle?) And we may surmise how THAT could be done, but the 4 forces and all the quantum gobbledygook has to do whatever to allow for the molecular transformation, which I assume would require huge amounts of energy.... anyway, that isn't what happens when some priest prays over the eucharist. Nothing happens.... that doesn't conform to the laws of physics (whatever they are)
Anyway.... if there was some entity or situation where the laws of physics could be ignored or avoided.... you'd have chaos...and no universe at all.
As Victor J. Stenger says (paraphrasing) "The universe appears exactly the way it should if there were no gods at all."